WH On Collision Course With Bishops Over Abortion

WASHINGTON (AP) - The White House is on a collision course with Catholic bishops in an intractable dispute over abortion that could blow up the fragile political coalition behind President Barack Obama's health care overhaul.
 
A top Obama administration official on Thursday praised the new Senate health care bill's attempt to find a compromise on abortion coverage - even as an official of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops said Sen. Harry Reid's bill is the worst he's seen so far on the divisive issue.
 
The bishops were instrumental in getting tough anti-abortion language adopted by the House, forcing Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., to accept restrictions that outraged liberals as the price for passing the Democratic health care bill. Reid, D-Nev., now faces a similar choice: Ultimately, he will need the votes of Democratic senators who oppose abortion to get his bill through the Senate.
 
So far, Reid has steered the Senate bill in a direction that abortion rights supporters can live with: allowing coverage for abortion in federally subsidized health care plans, provided that beneficiaries' own premiums are used to pay for the procedure. But abortion opponents say his compromise would gut current federal restrictions on abortion funding.

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In a Bunker

Liars, bait and switchers...they'll just come up with something and change it. I don't know when I've been so sad for this great nation. These are the swarmiest people that can be bought and sold, arm twisted and they don't friggin care!! If they did believe in God, they wouldn't be doing any of this stuff. They want us to give up, but the fight has just begun!!!!

Monday, November 23, 2009 at 02:58 PM Report 

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Kasperle

I am not Catholic, not Christian and certainly not a troll either.
I DO NOT AGREE with ABORTION unles it is a medical imperative.
This does not mean that soemone can use the idiotic reason that it is mentally to taxing or any other such lame excuse. You get pregnant you go girl and become a mother. Take responsibility! Men who make girls pregnant do the same. Become a father - it will make your life better.
If a woman is raped then she has the right to an abortion.
There may be a couple of other situations that require special dispensation.
Beyond these - ABORTIONS are a disgrace. They are a demeaning of life and ultimately lead to the decay of our self esteem.
To all these liberal wowsers out there that think otherwise. - you will receive what you sow. For many of you lame and unfortunate fools you have already done so. Just look at your empty and pathetic lives. All intelect and no soul. Pathetic to the nth degree, get a grip people!!!
Democrats that vote for this abominatrion of a health care disaster of a bill will be destroyed. Mark my words this is a war for the quality of life of humans and you are on the other side people.

Monday, November 23, 2009 at 10:40 AM Report 

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Excalibur

..........When ANY society devalues human life the moral fiber of that nation begins to unravel..........we are seeing that progression here in the US.........our culture is devolving.........we are creating very little that is beautiful and meaningful........technology does not make the soul soar..........!

Monday, November 23, 2009 at 10:28 AM Report 

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CHIP

The bishop of San Francisco, needs to have a little "chat", with Pelosi.

Monday, November 23, 2009 at 09:46 AM Report 

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In a Bunker

Didn't you mean "exorcism"?

Monday, November 23, 2009 at 03:01 PM Report 

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Benana

I think that God or Jesus needs to have a chat with Pelosi. A bishop in S.F. is already pretty weak. She did grow up in Baltimore's "Little Italy" and I'm sure a bishop from there would give her a good talking to.

Monday, November 23, 2009 at 01:43 PM Report 

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Benana

I think that God or Jesus needs to have a chat with Pelosi. A bishop in S.F. is already pretty weak. She did grow up in Baltimore's "Little Italy" and I'm sure a bishop from there would give her a good talking to.

Monday, November 23, 2009 at 01:43 PM Report 

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Monday, November 23, 2009 at 09:38 AM Report 

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Jenney

Hope Fr. Jenkings or Jennings was fired from Notre Dame. barack sure fooled him. If you are Catholic, write your Bishop to thank him for finally speaking out. Christians shouldn't contribute financially to babies being harpooned in their heads at 9 months in the womb.

Monday, November 23, 2009 at 08:35 AM Report 

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Ameritianity

VISIT: www.ameritianity.com
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Monday, November 23, 2009 at 07:52 AM Report 

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joeyblueyes

BNISHOPS MARCH ON THE BLACK MUSLIM OBITLA AND CHRISTIANS WILL MARCH WITH YOU, SAVE THE BABIES AND SAVE OUR ONCE GREAT NATION, AND DO NOT SUPPORT, THE HERETICS OF NOTRE DAME

Monday, November 23, 2009 at 06:38 AM Report 

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rammey

More power to the bishops. Anything and everything to stop the progressives!!

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 09:39 PM Report 

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Don't Drink the Cool Aid

Any catholic senator or congressman voting for a health care bill that contains money for abortion should be excommunicated from the church. Abortion is Murder.

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 09:42 PM Report 

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Jim in JAX

Well said, and I certainly agree. It's about time morality mattered to these elected buffoons we have in office.

Monday, November 23, 2009 at 09:22 AM Report 

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SABINE

TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH BUT LIKE THE LAW ABOUT TREASON, SADLY WILL NOT BE ENFORCED. WE HAVE BECOME WAY TOO LEANIANT.

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 09:44 PM Report 

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Lourdes

How much does an abortion cost anyway? Women who want one should pay for it themselves.

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 06:38 PM Report 

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joeyblueyes

HEY PRIESTS CAN YOU PRAY AND MARCH AGAINST THE BLACK MUSLIM AT THE SAME TIME. IF THE ANSWER IS YES THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL JOIN YOU. I'M NOT TALKING TO THE HERETICS OF NOTRE DAME

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 06:28 PM Report 

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US Male

"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.
George Washington

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 04:53 PM Report 

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Ameritianity

VISIT: www.ameritianity.com
(1) The Muslim and the Black Preachers
(2) Healthcare and Prosperity
(3) Latest Obama Appointees
(4) Radical/Liberal Rulebook
(5) Narcissistic Power
(6) An American Coup
(7) Obama speaks about Christianity
(8) Obama on his Dislike of the Constitution
(9) Obama speaks about “Whittie”
(10) A solution for HealthCare
(11) Indoctrination of our children to sing the praises of Obama
(12) Blacks say opposition to “ObamaCare” is not about racism
(13) “Jesus loves the little children in the womb”
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Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 03:35 PM Report 

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Josey Whales - Missouri

I am talking to you, yes YOU, look in the mirror and convince yourself that your parents made the right decision not to have an abortion!

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 03:03 PM Report 

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stoptheinsanity

they better take a stand before the new one world religion comes into power

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 01:53 PM Report 

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liberals are destroying this nation

Troll ,You libs support NAMBLA so the pedophile must be the hero in your story , Heres a better one : Obama , a union thug , a member of NARAL ,and an athiest walk into a bar ...

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 06:09 PM Report 

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xanty

Harry Reid also needs Excommunication he goes totaly against his churches polocies.

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 01:31 PM Report 

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xanty

They need to excommunicate every Catholic that votes for abortion or to pay for abortions

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 01:16 PM Report 

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stoptheinsanity

obama believes in partial birth abortion and infanticide,,,who got him elected?

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 01:22 PM Report 

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Recon

Yes, glad Bishops are standing up,
Patrick Kennedy 'RI Catholic Bishop announced 'you're DENIED communion'.
This is what Obama does best his way vs. REALITY or gravitas.
What a joke, this is a huge step towards pure communism which is what Obama has been after since he entered politics.
Obama will be a lame duck in one year,
have two years of using his knee pads to get a nickle.
Worry not fellow conservatives, this is the straw that will break their backs. Tea anyone?

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 01:03 PM Report 

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stoptheinsanity

with majority of Americans as believers I do NOT know how obama and the dems got elected to pres and majority,,,the biggest issues for them are abortion and gay rights,,,,the fight for abortion paid by US in health care bill will be passed as did the mexico city policy obama reversed, it is time true Christians stand up and be heard and counted.

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 12:42 PM Report 

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John63

I would really hope that the Catholic Church would ex-communicate all members of congress that vote for this health care bill, as it is written with abortion in it.

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 12:31 PM Report 

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spinfree

I never understood the democratic position on abortion. Above all, the unborn are human beings, but more then that they could grow up to be a liberal. Go figure?

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 11:09 AM Report 

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ESP

Kennedy, Kerry, Pelosi, Biden like catholics want it both ways. Communion and abortion. They want to protect the rights of terrorists when the CIA does torture and gets vidal info, but they do not want the rights of the unborn protected.
Throw them out of office. they have no principals

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 11:01 AM Report 

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winodrifter

As per Catholic radio, the Bishop of MA denied Teddy burial services in the cathedral in Boston. This is why it was held in the smaller grotto.

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 10:48 AM Report 

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Old Guy 5

Now it's time for other religions to join with the catholics and the few evangalicals that also signed. Come on all you television preachers like Hagee, Robertson, etc. get your names on the list and preach it in your churches. Stand up for what is right.

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 10:04 AM Report 

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SW

They do they are they have been!

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 02:14 PM Report 

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Old Guy 5

I agree with the poster that congratulated the bishop for not giving Kennedy communion. More bishops and piests should stand up for what the catholic chhurch believes and not give sacremental rites to anyone who says their catholic and does not show it by their deeds and speech. This especially should include people in the spotlight that can be models for our chilfren. As far as electing the kind of president we have now - SHAME ON US.

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 09:59 AM Report 

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SW

This is true ,and the BIBLE says to :"Examine Yourself before,for he that eateth or drinketh unworthily , eateth and
drinketh damnation to himself."
I would say this is a precise and clear warning.

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 02:21 PM Report 

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Midwest Patriot

Give the Catholic Bishops a pat on the back for speaking out. Although overdue, it's a good step.

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 09:20 AM Report 

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fed up with them all

It's way past time they stood up and said it stinks. God bless each and everyone of them.

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 09:14 AM Report 

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Mrs McC

I'm so sick of all the Kennedy's acting like they are some sort of pseudo-royalty. They act like laws and morality do not apply to them, just to the "little people." I hope the Bishops show some backbone and unite against this little loser.

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 09:06 AM Report 

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Paladin

The president with the muslim name has stated that "we do not consider ourselves a Christian nation". Speak for yourself BHO. Hooray for the Catholic Bishops.

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 08:32 AM Report 

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Winston Cupp

Bravo to the church. Bravo for the Bishop in RI denying communion to Kennedy. And shame on the church for allowing communion for Nancy Pelosi, Kennedy in the other states, and John Kerry. And any other Catholic that are pro-abortion.

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 08:13 AM Report 

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US Male

"Always stand on principle, even if you have to stand alone."
John Quincy Adams

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 04:01 AM Report 

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US Male

"If we ever forget that we are one nation under God, then we will be one nation gone under."
Ronald Reagan

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 03:33 AM Report 

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biker

I posted this quote in the teachers lounge in the school I work at..and believe it or not..it is still there after a year. There is still hope.

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 03:51 AM Report 

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US Male

Your a Great American!!!

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 04:07 AM Report 

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US Male

"Men will ultimately be governed by God or by tyrants."
Benjamin Franklin

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 03:31 AM Report 

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Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 01:04 AM Report 

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therepublicrevealed

Does the WH believe in G/d???????????????
http://www.therepublicrevealed.com/forums/index.php?topic=296.0

Saturday, November 21, 2009 at 11:29 PM Report 

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Excalibur

.........the WH believes in GOLD................!

Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 07:47 AM Report 

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biker

I do not believe in abortion...If you choose to have an abortion, that is your right..however don't expect me to pay for it. The pro abortion organizations can start a fund for the government to use to pay for these abortions. Not American citizens tax dollars.

Saturday, November 21, 2009 at 11:05 PM Report 

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