CHELMSFORD - After meeting with members of the Byam Elementary School PTO, two mothers asking to put the holidays back into the school's annual holiday gift shop say Byam isn't budging.
Kathryn McMillan and Kathleen Cullen, who both have children at Byam, asked school officials to allow all holiday items at the gift shop following a ban on Santa, candy canes, stockings, and all Christmas, Hanukkah and other "religious items."
But a meeting with some PTO parents on Thursday night grew heated as emotions got in the way.
Red and green tissue paper to wrap presents was also crossed off the list because it looked too "Christmasy," McMillan said.
"One of the parents said, 'If we allow Santa, what do we say if a child brings in a swastika? Do we allow that too?' " McMillan said. "All I could think of was, are you kidding? You're comparing a Christmas ornament to a swastika? It seems as if reason is lost somewhere and I just hope we can find it again."
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Happy Holidays, Chelmsfords Kids!
d'Raven
i2ambler
Right? just one school, you know what, that is how I found out about the obama hymn. I learned that the school my daughters are attending are being indoctrinated and before I knew it, it was already rampant and everywhere
FAILURE-IN-CHIEF
Next stop, removing ''IN GOD WE TRUST'' from all U.S. currency.Laugh now but...
spleen
No offense, but I bet the plutocrats running the show think this is a good thing. If you take the Christ out of Christmas, you can get EVERYONE buying and, let's not kid ourselves, our country is run by the people with money in order to increase the amount of money they possess. Merry Chri$tma$!
Portia
I don't shop for Christmas at Target. Ever. Two years ago, BJ's started with the "holiday" cards and "holiday" trees. I quit shopping there for Christmas. I decided that since it was Christmas decorations and Christmas presents I was buying to celebrate Christ's birthday mass, I should buy them from stores which aren't trying to make a buck by denegrating Christ. If stores hate Christians so much, perhaps they shouldn't participate in the celebration.
Qwerty
Christmas presents and decorations are materialistic and pagan. Nothing to do with Christ at all.
DS
Who is offended by Santa?.................
FAILURE-IN-CHIEF
PIGS.
CzarsRUs
No PUBLIC displays of Christ at Christmas time. No support for a PUBLIC option in the healthcare bill. How badly do you libs want your PUBLIC option?? If you remove Christ from the PUBLIC square at Christmas time......then don't try and use His name to get Christians to support your PUBLIC option . The choice is up to you.
chesapeakeguy
This is happening in Massachusetts? No surprise to me! What do you expect from a state that kept electing Ted (Is it Happy Hour yet) Kennedy and keeps electing John (Ho Chi) Kerry to the Senate? All other institutions that have made this nation great are under assault by the left in Dem strongholds, who in their right mind would have ever thought Christmas would be immune?
poppy
I guess these type people like to use all white lights to show how they are better than everybody else!
rannan3
In these days of Political Correctness,all signs of faith and Christianity are being challenged. But remember the old saying -- The squeaky wheel gets the grease " ? WE can become the squeaky wheels by standing up for our observations of faith. Don't let anyone take CHRISTMAS from our lives, just don't let it happen !! Remind everyone --Jesus IS the reason for the season !! We celebrate his birth with Christmas.
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Jdncpa
Whatever happened to Jesus is the reason for the season? It is a Christian holiday that gained national recognition. So let it be. I don't know anyone who could honestly say a manger scene somehow is subverting the youth of America and do it with a straight face.
Maybe we should have swatiska day? Where instead of Christmas ornaments we have swatiskas hanging from the tree, and scenes of Hitler resting comfortably in his bunker. The same nut jobs would rather put a crucifix in a jar of urine and call it art on display but won't acknowledge a day celebrated by the overwhelming majority of Americans.
puckerup America
What's the point of having a holiday annual gift shop if you refuse to acknowledge the reason for the holiday? Why holiday? What holiday? For some - Christmas, for some - Hanukkah, for others - Islam. It really doesn't matter what religion each person is if any at all. The school is trying to have it both ways - a gift shop with no reason for a gift shop.
Friday-1-2-3
Not sure if anyone actually read that article or not - but its ONE school in the county that has adopted the 'no religious items' theme.. its no "war on Christmas" at all. They are simply not allowing any holiday themed items at all -this includes Christmas, Hanukkah, pictures of the baby jesus, etc..
Anivar
Red and green tissue paper to wrap presents was also crossed off the list because it looked too "Christmasy," McMillan said.
So, yeah not just baby Jesus pictures. Further more, this sort of thing is happening every where. Creches being removed, religious symbols of Christianity of any type being removed from all public places. Seems to me that all of this ardent religion bashing, and using the courts to get it done violates the first amendment, by establishing Atheism as the only acceptable religion in this country.
And don't go thinking I have a bone to pick, I'm Agnostic. And I have never been harmed or troubled by Santa, Jesus, a menorah, some one saying a prayer, and least of all, the prospect of coming into personal contact with red and green tissue paper.
Portia
Isn't it interesting that tolerance is the first thing under the bus when the left is demanding tolerance? Lies are truth, up is down, down is up, intolerance is tolerance. Obamaland.
puckerup America
That's rich! A holiday gift shop with no holiday themed items!!!
FAILURE-IN-CHIEF
Buy carbon credits I guess, lol.
juniusxv
what do they sell in the shop? condoms, or BO's autobiography, or gore's envirobilge? these people deserve the idiots that they elect!
ZOZO
Are there no Christians in Mass.
How can normal people put up with this??
The world was a better place with out this assault on religion.
More Politicly correct nonsense it will end in trouble for everyone
Debra
*blinks...gee, what a surprise. I thought after the lecture Darrin gave us in another blog about how us Christians should read our bibles and be nice or STFU, would CERTAINLY be on this page defending our Lord, being the stalwart Christian that he thinks himself to be. Guess he's just a phony, hypocrite who says do as I say, NOT as I do, just like I thought...*laughs
Doc H
How about the Star and Crescent of the Muslim religion?? would we allow these? as you shake in your shoes and pee down your leg in fear of this vile and repugnant religion of "we will blow your ass off if you don't allow it".
Fed Up
They better keep the kids in school on Dec 24th and 25th. You wouldn't want to give the appearance that you are celebrating a Christian Holiday.
62andAngry
Instead of insulting each other...do some real good. Byam Elementary 978-251-5144. Turn this around for the SAKE of the kids!! Without our traditions....this will be a very bleak country....
Mavric1919
In 1957 the Soviet Union and other Communist regimes banned overtly religious Christmas observances.. When people say that we are working towards a socialist way of thinking is just smoke and stupidity but to say that green and red tissue paper looked too "Christmasy," is going even further than the Soviet Union did in 1957.
I have noticed that of all the holidays that fall during this time of year it is Christmas that gets the brunt of that attack. I mean I have never heard an argument that a Hanukkah Menorah is to be call a Holiday Candle Holder. Ramadan is many days of Fasting and praying for guidance, Its a very big time of year for them it's in honor when Mohammed received the Qir'an from Allah. They do not partake in excess during Ramadan so I don't they they will be at Best Buy getting a Flat Screen for the season to put under their Holiday tree.
Kwanzaa.. I won't personally comment on this holiday but refer to what my college Prof (who is black) said about it. "It's a stupid made up holiday . It is further self segregating, I am not African, I am not African-American, I am American. "
But if you want to keep crying that Christmas is to Christmasy there is always National Whiners Day on Dec. 26.
Judy Kay
Santa is a myth. Jesus Christ is the truth, the light and the way. On Christmas Day, the majority of Americans (yes, most of us are Christians) will be celebrating the birthday of Jesus Christ. Happy Birthday to our Lord, Jesus Christ, and Merry Christmas one and all!
Imustbe
ELW5149
First of all you don't need to be nasty! I was given the website by a friend and after I checked it out and didn't readily see any other religious stamps, I was under the impression that they were no longer offered. So for that I apologize. I am neither a liar or ignorant and for you to sit there in your accusitory manner that I am either only makes you look like the jerk.
J_L
Come and arrest me, because, I will be celebrating His birthday. Complete with Christmas tree, lights, homemade presents, and a delicious Christmas dinner.
Fed Up
CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED
WHY????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Fed Up
Is this the way of the new order under BO?
witsend49--say no to PC
God is watching all of this -- He will watch me put up a Christmas tree,make Christmas dinner,open Christmas presents,sing Christmas songs,get a child's name from the Angel tree, wish the clerks a loud Merry Christmas,read Christmas stories to my grandkids,attend church services on Christmas Eve,it will be ALL about Christmas in and around my family-when the American-Nazi's come to my door to arrest me for celebrating Christmas there will be war.
ELW5149
Christians squeal like stuck pigs when someone practices intolerence to their religion. The school being a government institution is obligated to be all inclusive and I am sure that the Christians complained roundly when the school hung Hanakka, Kwanza or Ramadan decorations. Your intolerence has led to none of these children being allowed to celebrate their religeous holidays at the school.
real American
Christianity is the most tolerant of beliefs.your post is most unAmerican
NUTS ON YOUR CHIN
Dumbest post in this thread
DonSmith
Seconded!
ELW5149
Imustbe Check out the HOLIDAY Stamps with the post office. They're offering Hanukkah and Kwanzaa stamps but no stamps for Christmas!!! Don't send cards boycott the post office!
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You are either a liar or completely ignorant. Go usps.com and check out the Winder Holidays stamps including one featuring the Madonna and baby Jesus.
maxwelltahoma
This is just stupid and they are going over the top. They won't sell red and green tissue paper because it is too christmasy. They are just colors every color can probably be associtaed with something that might cause controversy. For example you can't use the color pink because it is to sexist and can't normally be given to boys. You can't use the color blue because it is the color of the ocean and some people are afraid of water.
NotsoSilent
How about red and blue, the colors of the crips and the blood street gangs or if you prefer the nortenos and surenos? With Obama it makes sense, lets celebrate the cultural diversity of criminals and make it the reason for the season......I guess the school board in this tiny little burg has all the other problems of budgeting and school facilities, and student achievement all taken care of.
Josh
I think it is time our side goes on the offense in this war. Bigger Christmas trees, Bigger nativity scenes, Bigger everything and more of it everywhere!
www.americanuprisinginc.com
foxynews
Massachusetts is a screwed up state.....think about its leaders. Not surprising!
FAILURE-IN-CHIEF
Don't forget about us in California, we are soon to be right there with you.
Imustbe
Check out the HOLIDAY Stamps with the post office. They're offering Hanukkah and Kwanzaa stamps but no stamps for Christmas!!! Don't send cards boycott the post office!
Speedbump
If you are an atheist, would you demand that public building be abandoned because they reflect a dualist mathematical theology?
annieoakley
I plan to go to Old Navy, a store not allowed to recognize Merry Christmas, put my purchases on the counter and wish the clerk a Merry Christmas. If she does not respond in kind, I will advise her I will not purchase the items and then will tell the store manager that they can keep their merchandise. They want the sales, the $$$, but they can't say Christmas? If it wasn't for Christmas, you better believe they'd be in deep trouble. Everyone should do the same thing. Don't support any store that doesn't recognize the season for what it is...CHRISTMAS...I'm sick of the whole thing and all the PC people. A few non-believers have taken away all of our rights to celebrate. It's time to stand up folks - to your Towns, Villages, Cities, schools and Federal government. Even the WH won't have Christmas trees - they're to be called Holiday trees w/no religious ornaments. How pathetic is that?
NotsoSilent
I would be willing to bet the swastika parents are former Kalifornia residents.....
CzarsRUs
Here's an idea. Maybe the public schools in this country could try teaching kids to read and write and make change for a dollar before they graduate???
FAILURE-IN-CHIEF
Only thing kids know how to do after graduation is multiply.
ImJustSayin
What a unique concept...I second that motion!
Speedbump
wawa
What would you prefer?
Excalibur
..........Christmas, St. Patrick's Day, Valentine's Day and Thanksgiving.........are Christian holidays that bring beauty and joy to a colorless and empty world.........!.........Nihilism and atheism bring nothing...........!