It's being done to enable the government dictate what kind of car we can drive and to devalue the dollar in order to create financial panic among the population. By causing a loss of faith in the monetary system, people are more willing to depend on the government to provide for them.
So can anyone figure this out? Uncle Sam spends 40 Billion of your money to bail out the car companies. Now they give $4.500.00 of tax money to anyone who trades a junk car in for a new one. Still, they fail to limit this deal to american cars thus useing your dough to buy a KIA and help out the Korean economy. Will the ignorance ever end? Or is this done on purpose to destroy our great nation?
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 10:30 PM
realpatriot
Sounds like commies don't it.?
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 10:05 PM
elrod
All that is happening is about changing our form of government. It has nothing to do with energy policy, health care, economic recovery, or climate change--it is about turning America into a Marxist country. Research Alinski, Marx, and Engles and you'll see that the current administration is following their plan.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 08:56 PM
elrod
All that is happening is about changing our form of government. It has nothing to do with energy policy, health care, economic recovery, or climate change--it is about turning America into a Marxist country. Research Alinski, Marx, and Engles and you'll see that the current administration is following their plan.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 08:56 PM
mouse
Palin for president.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 07:51 PM
Rick Perry
This bill was so ridiculous. 1200 pages that no one read but still voted for. I have a petition online demanding that congress limit the size of bills and the content and read them before they vote. Please help me get the message to Congress that we are on to them and we aren't going to allow it. http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/bill_size/signatures.html
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 05:53 PM
Pragmatic
"1200 pages that no one read but still voted for."
sounds a whole lot like the Patriot Act.... but who would vote against a bill with a name like that???
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 07:07 PM
aq1
Nancy Pelosi - I’ll get you my pretty and your little dog too!
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 05:45 PM
amielou
REMEMBER WHEN PELOSI SAID "I NEED TO SAVE THE WORLD" ? HOW NARCISSITIC STATEMENT IS THAT?
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 05:36 PM
amielou
hey great idea. where can i apply for the modern day gestapo green police? and if i don't comply where will i be taken so my family may know?
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 05:29 PM
seg
Let's just hope that many, many people who voted for him have now "seen the light" when it comes to BHO and what he is really all about -- and that it will be reflected in the elections in 2010 and 2012, if we can't do anything about it SOONER!! Of course we will have to have an extraordinary majority of votes in order to overcome the voter fraud by Acorn et al... Sadly.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 05:25 PM
dixie
I'm told by my sources that one of those bulbs blew up in a school in Savannah and Hazmat had to come out and they had to close the school till it was cleaned up.
Now what kind of joke is this? I'm hoarding the old fashioned bulbs when I fine them. The curlies are a disaster and if one breaks I'm not calling Hazmat. To heck with that.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 03:28 PM
Kris
Dixie and moesite: I'm hoarding too! Either I'll have the light bulbs I want, rather than the fed govt dictating, or I'll make some petty cash reselling them. (If I get caught, I'll probably got to PRISON, tho)
Sunday, July 05, 2009 at 02:55 AM
moesite
dixie; ive begun hoarding REAL bulbs, too! Before you know it, obummer will demand they all be pulled from the shelves to SAVE THE WORLD!
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 08:04 PM
PBALABAMA
Why can't we put this myth to bed? How many times do we have to prove to the Libs that man-made global warming is a HOAX? Oh, they created the HOAX.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 03:17 PM
PBALABAMA
Why is it we keep getting these never done anything, never ran a business, unsuccessful slobs telling us what to do? I do not now nor ever did need some Leftis schlub telling me how to live.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 03:13 PM
Pragmatic
Unsuccessful slobs... sounds a bit like Bush, doesn't it?
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 07:09 PM
moesite
PRAGMATIC; bush is no longer the PREZ. OBUMMER IS!!
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 08:05 PM
beemie24
We don't have a president, we have a dictator. I hope that all that voted for him are very satisfied with what he is doing. Our country as we know it, is gone.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 02:47 PM
Pragmatic
Move?
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 07:09 PM
Kris
YOU move!! This country has a Constitution based on liberty. You want socialism, take your self-centered pseudo-president and go start your own country! This one belongs to conservatives.
Sunday, July 05, 2009 at 02:58 AM
BHO (Community Organizer)
Instead of trying to change the country, You should move along with all of your lib friends. People die to reach our shores for freedom but you have to earn something to respect it. I'm sorry, you probably don't understand that.
Sunday, July 05, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Just an American Couple
Our home is exactly that!!! OUR HOME!!!! Our home is no place for the government. It is a spacious old homestead built in the 40's. We have made several upgrades over the years and are very happy to have them completed. If we decide to sell we will have to spend another 20 to 30K to meet these new so called standards. We have to stop this madness. Call your reps and let them know. We cannot stand for this.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 02:24 PM
Pragmatic
"If we decide to sell we will have to spend another 20 to 30K to meet these new so called standards."
WRONG!!!!
Does anyone here actually watch the video???
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 07:10 PM
PBALABAMA
The energy-efficient, curly light bulb which is supposed to last five years, blew out yesterday after only a year in use, due to a power spike. That's a common occurrence in the south. Now, I can't dispose of the thing because of its environmental impact.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 01:27 PM
Freedom Isnt Free
Be happy it just burned out and did not break or explode. Then You'd have to get tout of your home and have the hazmat crew to come clean it up. Imagine that expense! Those in Washington, on their power trip, have never thought about "unintended consequences"! We see these consequences in most everything the DC politicians do. Get involved America, not just on the internet!
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 02:05 PM
moesite
FREEDOM; those in washington NEVER think of the possible consequences -- its amazing!! They might as well be 10 years old with not a worry in the world!!
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 08:07 PM
KJK
There's no censoring. It's just a terrible web site.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 12:16 PM
PBALABAMA
Why are you censoring my comment about the curly light bulbs. There's nothing controversial about that.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 12:07 PM
The Lone Conspirator
Global warming is an industry like witch finding was in past times. The witch finder ( a real government job) was not asked to determine if witches existed. The job was to find them and deliver them to the legal system. The believers talk about "rising sea levels" as if it were happening but never provide any numbers, just fear mongering. Trends are baloney. There are far too many variables to talk about trends.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 10:58 AM
dixie
Most of those in Congress are wealthy----and Pelosi is very, very rich. Sooo she doesn't have a clue as to what a homeowner has to spend to bring up say a 35 year old house to her standards.
She is a big part of the California problem along with Lee, Feinstein and Boxer. Just look at them and you can see why California is in such trouble----not to mention the fake Republican Governor.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 10:37 AM
mouse
Absolutely.Arnold is a traitor, he has climbed in bed with Pelosi, Feinstein and the rest of the dirty Calibs.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 02:45 PM
Pragmatic
Try watching the video before commenting. It had nothing to do with old homes
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 12:21 PM
AlanB
Sec 202 is about existing buildings, not new construction, but there's nothing in there that requires anything. It's all about facilitating retrofits by those who want to do so by providing funding for state and local training programs and so on. There's not a word in there about anything that's required, much less about inspections of homes being sold. Read it yourself, you'll see. This is a made-up story.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 05:24 PM
Obamacare makes me sick
What does the word "retrofit" mean if it doesn't apply to old homes? Can you answer that, "pragmatic?"
It will mean that when my son wants to sell the house I bought new in 2004, whenever that day may be, he will have to bring it up to whatever standard the inspectors are following! RETROFIT!!!
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 01:35 PM
PBALABAMA
Yet. They WERE TALKING ABOUT SELLING HOMES. It is an infringement on our freedoms for the Government to tell us how and when we can sell our own property.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 01:16 PM
November2010
My brother read BHO's book, voted for him, and is sickened by what BHO is really doing. Barry is breaking promise after promise after promise.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 01:15 AM
PBALABAMA
Why did you let your brother read a book BHO didn't write and vote for a guy who never did anything or even have a job?
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 08:59 AM
GHW_NY
These are quotes from SME's "Manufacturing Engineering Magazine" the links are: http://www.sme.org/cgi-bin/find-articles.pl?&09jum002&ME&20090601&&SME&#... http://www.sme.org/cgi-bin/find-articles.pl?&09mym002&ME&20090501&&SME&#...
On Carbon:
China's production of steel has quadrupled this decade, making it by far the world's largest source of steel. It now produces more than the US, Russia, and Japan combined. And, while China produces one-third of the world's steel, it is responsible for half of the world's carbon dioxide from steelmaking, making it a leading contributor to global warming.
And it is not just the Chinese that suffer from this problem, the US EPA reports that, on some days, one-fourth of the particulate matter (dust and soot) in Los Angeles comes from China.
On Green Industry:
Clean-Energy Industry Needed
Much of our economic recovery is linked to jobs that will result from a growing clean-energy industry. The problem is, according to a report by the Apollo Alliance (San Francisco), we don't make many of the components. Most are imported.
The Apollo Alliance is calling for federal investments in the domestic manufacture of clean energy components.
Friday, July 03, 2009 at 11:39 PM
Obamacare makes me sick
China already told Hillary a few months ago that they were not changing their way of doing their business! Instead of talking to China about Iran she talked about "global warming!" That tells us what this administration wants: tell every body what to do so in the end their buddies, and themselves, become richer. Al Gore rings a bell?
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 01:38 PM
November2010
Over the last 10 years, CO2 is up, temperatures are down, the Greens were wrong, and they are rewording from "global warming" to "climate change".
=> The whole carbon thing has just been a sham to justify a great power grab. And we're "livin' the dream, baby!"
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 01:20 AM
KJK
"NASA recently had to admit their data was incorrect". You are making it sound like NASA temperature data is useless. That's not the case by any stretch of the imagination.
.
It's always interesting to me that NASA and other data is fine when it's used to claim that the temperature is "cooling", but otherwise it's corrupted or inaccurate.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 03:25 PM
Freedom Isnt Free
Right on! Also, NASA recently had to admit their data was incorrect. They used eroneous numbers. I happen to be a stat freak and you can use numbers, much like the Bible, to prove or disprove anything you want! BTW, before we get off on a tangent about religion and the Bible, I am a christian. I just get tired of people misusing the Bible. Let's not get off the topic of government power grabs.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 02:13 PM
KJK
Kenny, there is no cooling trend over the last 10 years. Get the NASA or HadCRUT3 data; plot 1999-2008 in Excel; plot a trend line. It will point up, not down. This isn't liberal or conservative, it's just basic science.
.
The climate hasn't changed if it's raining. That's just weather. Climate is weather averaged over a very long period of time.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 01:45 PM
kenny from SC
KJK, This is the answer libs have for the drop in temps over the last 10 years? Its part of global warming? comeon now. In the late 70's the big scare was global coling. The planet was cooling and an ice age was coming! oh no, what do we do? then not 10 years later gorte scared everyone with his global warming hoax. Come on, these computer models are imputted with the worst possible scenario, then taken for gods word. I can input anything into a computer model and get the results I want. Make up your minds, is it global warming, or climate change, what? cause climate change where i live is called WEATHER!! look, its raining, the climate just changed. Is it truly global warming when its 40 degrees hotte now than it was last night? this is how foolish you look.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 10:46 AM
KJK
First, you have to look at trends, not the temperatures of individual years. If you plot global average temperatures for the last ten years (1999-2008) in Excel or whatever and then have it create a trend line, you'll see that it trends up, not down. Second, natural variability in climate is normal and expected. Global warming doesn't require that every year must be warmer than the last. Periods of cooling, even of ten years, are not only expected but a near certainty. Climate trends are measured in terms of 15-30 years or longer.
Saturday, July 04, 2009 at 08:00 AM
KJK
First, you have to look at trends, not the temperatures of individual years. If you plot global average temperatures for the last ten years (1999-2008) in Excel or whatever and then have it create a trend line, you'll see that it trends up, not down. Second, natural variability in climate is normal and expected. Global warming doesn't require that every year must be warmer than the last. Periods of cooling, even of ten years, are not only expected but a near certainty. Climate trends are measured in terms of 15-30 years or longer.
elrod
It's being done to enable the government dictate what kind of car we can drive and to devalue the dollar in order to create financial panic among the population. By causing a loss of faith in the monetary system, people are more willing to depend on the government to provide for them.
Josh
The government is coming very close to takingone step too far.
www.americanuprisinginc.com
1STCAVLRRPNAM67
So can anyone figure this out? Uncle Sam spends 40 Billion of your money to bail out the car companies. Now they give $4.500.00 of tax money to anyone who trades a junk car in for a new one. Still, they fail to limit this deal to american cars thus useing your dough to buy a KIA and help out the Korean economy. Will the ignorance ever end? Or is this done on purpose to destroy our great nation?
realpatriot
Sounds like commies don't it.?
elrod
All that is happening is about changing our form of government. It has nothing to do with energy policy, health care, economic recovery, or climate change--it is about turning America into a Marxist country. Research Alinski, Marx, and Engles and you'll see that the current administration is following their plan.
elrod
All that is happening is about changing our form of government. It has nothing to do with energy policy, health care, economic recovery, or climate change--it is about turning America into a Marxist country. Research Alinski, Marx, and Engles and you'll see that the current administration is following their plan.
mouse
Palin for president.
Rick Perry
This bill was so ridiculous. 1200 pages that no one read but still voted for. I have a petition online demanding that congress limit the size of bills and the content and read them before they vote. Please help me get the message to Congress that we are on to them and we aren't going to allow it.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/bill_size/signatures.html
Pragmatic
"1200 pages that no one read but still voted for."
sounds a whole lot like the Patriot Act.... but who would vote against a bill with a name like that???
aq1
Nancy Pelosi - I’ll get you my pretty and your little dog too!
amielou
REMEMBER WHEN PELOSI SAID "I NEED TO SAVE THE WORLD" ? HOW NARCISSITIC STATEMENT IS THAT?
amielou
hey great idea. where can i apply for the modern day gestapo green police? and if i don't comply where will i be taken so my family may know?
seg
Let's just hope that many, many people who voted for him have now "seen the light" when it comes to BHO and what he is really all about -- and that it will be reflected in the elections in 2010 and 2012, if we can't do anything about it SOONER!! Of course we will have to have an extraordinary majority of votes in order to overcome the voter fraud by Acorn et al... Sadly.
dixie
I'm told by my sources that one of those bulbs blew up in a school in Savannah and Hazmat had to come out and they had to close the school till it was cleaned up.
Now what kind of joke is this? I'm hoarding the old fashioned bulbs when I fine them. The curlies are a disaster and if one breaks I'm not calling Hazmat. To heck with that.
Kris
Dixie and moesite: I'm hoarding too! Either I'll have the light bulbs I want, rather than the fed govt dictating, or I'll make some petty cash reselling them. (If I get caught, I'll probably got to PRISON, tho)
moesite
dixie; ive begun hoarding REAL bulbs, too! Before you know it, obummer will demand they all be pulled from the shelves to SAVE THE WORLD!
PBALABAMA
Why can't we put this myth to bed? How many times do we have to prove to the Libs that man-made global warming is a HOAX? Oh, they created the HOAX.
PBALABAMA
Why is it we keep getting these never done anything, never ran a business, unsuccessful slobs telling us what to do? I do not now nor ever did need some Leftis schlub telling me how to live.
Pragmatic
Unsuccessful slobs... sounds a bit like Bush, doesn't it?
moesite
PRAGMATIC; bush is no longer the PREZ. OBUMMER IS!!
beemie24
We don't have a president, we have a dictator. I hope that all that voted for him are very satisfied with what he is doing. Our country as we know it, is gone.
Pragmatic
Move?
Kris
YOU move!! This country has a Constitution based on liberty. You want socialism, take your self-centered pseudo-president and go start your own country! This one belongs to conservatives.
BHO (Community Organizer)
Instead of trying to change the country, You should move along with all of your lib friends. People die to reach our shores for freedom but you have to earn something to respect it. I'm sorry, you probably don't understand that.
Just an American Couple
Our home is exactly that!!! OUR HOME!!!! Our home is no place for the government. It is a spacious old homestead built in the 40's. We have made several upgrades over the years and are very happy to have them completed. If we decide to sell we will have to spend another 20 to 30K to meet these new so called standards. We have to stop this madness. Call your reps and let them know. We cannot stand for this.
Pragmatic
"If we decide to sell we will have to spend another 20 to 30K to meet these new so called standards."
WRONG!!!!
Does anyone here actually watch the video???
PBALABAMA
The energy-efficient, curly light bulb which is supposed to last five years, blew out yesterday after only a year in use, due to a power spike. That's a common occurrence in the south. Now, I can't dispose of the thing because of its environmental impact.
Freedom Isnt Free
Be happy it just burned out and did not break or explode. Then You'd have to get tout of your home and have the hazmat crew to come clean it up. Imagine that expense! Those in Washington, on their power trip, have never thought about "unintended consequences"! We see these consequences in most everything the DC politicians do. Get involved America, not just on the internet!
moesite
FREEDOM; those in washington NEVER think of the possible consequences -- its amazing!! They might as well be 10 years old with not a worry in the world!!
KJK
There's no censoring. It's just a terrible web site.
PBALABAMA
Why are you censoring my comment about the curly light bulbs. There's nothing controversial about that.
The Lone Conspirator
Global warming is an industry like witch finding was in past times. The witch finder ( a real government job) was not asked to determine if witches existed. The job was to find them and deliver them to the legal system. The believers talk about "rising sea levels" as if it were happening but never provide any numbers, just fear mongering. Trends are baloney. There are far too many variables to talk about trends.
dixie
Most of those in Congress are wealthy----and Pelosi is very, very rich. Sooo she doesn't have a clue as to what a homeowner has to spend to bring up say a 35 year old house to her standards.
She is a big part of the California problem along with Lee, Feinstein and Boxer. Just look at them and you can see why California is in such trouble----not to mention the fake Republican Governor.
mouse
Absolutely.Arnold is a traitor, he has climbed in bed with Pelosi, Feinstein and the rest of the dirty Calibs.
Pragmatic
Try watching the video before commenting. It had nothing to do with old homes
AlanB
Sec 202 is about existing buildings, not new construction, but there's nothing in there that requires anything. It's all about facilitating retrofits by those who want to do so by providing funding for state and local training programs and so on. There's not a word in there about anything that's required, much less about inspections of homes being sold. Read it yourself, you'll see. This is a made-up story.
Obamacare makes me sick
What does the word "retrofit" mean if it doesn't apply to old homes? Can you answer that, "pragmatic?"
It will mean that when my son wants to sell the house I bought new in 2004, whenever that day may be, he will have to bring it up to whatever standard the inspectors are following! RETROFIT!!!
PBALABAMA
Yet. They WERE TALKING ABOUT SELLING HOMES. It is an infringement on our freedoms for the Government to tell us how and when we can sell our own property.
November2010
My brother read BHO's book, voted for him, and is sickened by what BHO is really doing. Barry is breaking promise after promise after promise.
PBALABAMA
Why did you let your brother read a book BHO didn't write and vote for a guy who never did anything or even have a job?
GHW_NY
These are quotes from SME's "Manufacturing Engineering Magazine" the links are:
http://www.sme.org/cgi-bin/find-articles.pl?&09jum002&ME&20090601&&SME&#...
http://www.sme.org/cgi-bin/find-articles.pl?&09mym002&ME&20090501&&SME&#...
On Carbon:
China's production of steel has quadrupled this decade, making it by far the world's largest source of steel. It now produces more than the US, Russia, and Japan combined. And, while China produces one-third of the world's steel, it is responsible for half of the world's carbon dioxide from steelmaking, making it a leading contributor to global warming.
And it is not just the Chinese that suffer from this problem, the US EPA reports that, on some days, one-fourth of the particulate matter (dust and soot) in Los Angeles comes from China.
On Green Industry:
Clean-Energy Industry Needed
Much of our economic recovery is linked to jobs that will result from a growing clean-energy industry. The problem is, according to a report by the Apollo Alliance (San Francisco), we don't make many of the components. Most are imported.
The Apollo Alliance is calling for federal investments in the domestic manufacture of clean energy components.
Obamacare makes me sick
China already told Hillary a few months ago that they were not changing their way of doing their business! Instead of talking to China about Iran she talked about "global warming!" That tells us what this administration wants: tell every body what to do so in the end their buddies, and themselves, become richer. Al Gore rings a bell?
November2010
Over the last 10 years, CO2 is up, temperatures are down, the Greens were wrong, and they are rewording from "global warming" to "climate change".
=> The whole carbon thing has just been a sham to justify a great power grab. And we're "livin' the dream, baby!"
KJK
"NASA recently had to admit their data was incorrect". You are making it sound like NASA temperature data is useless. That's not the case by any stretch of the imagination.
.
It's always interesting to me that NASA and other data is fine when it's used to claim that the temperature is "cooling", but otherwise it's corrupted or inaccurate.
Freedom Isnt Free
Right on! Also, NASA recently had to admit their data was incorrect. They used eroneous numbers. I happen to be a stat freak and you can use numbers, much like the Bible, to prove or disprove anything you want! BTW, before we get off on a tangent about religion and the Bible, I am a christian. I just get tired of people misusing the Bible. Let's not get off the topic of government power grabs.
KJK
Kenny, there is no cooling trend over the last 10 years. Get the NASA or HadCRUT3 data; plot 1999-2008 in Excel; plot a trend line. It will point up, not down. This isn't liberal or conservative, it's just basic science.
.
The climate hasn't changed if it's raining. That's just weather. Climate is weather averaged over a very long period of time.
kenny from SC
KJK, This is the answer libs have for the drop in temps over the last 10 years? Its part of global warming? comeon now. In the late 70's the big scare was global coling. The planet was cooling and an ice age was coming! oh no, what do we do? then not 10 years later gorte scared everyone with his global warming hoax. Come on, these computer models are imputted with the worst possible scenario, then taken for gods word. I can input anything into a computer model and get the results I want. Make up your minds, is it global warming, or climate change, what? cause climate change where i live is called WEATHER!! look, its raining, the climate just changed. Is it truly global warming when its 40 degrees hotte now than it was last night? this is how foolish you look.
KJK
First, you have to look at trends, not the temperatures of individual years. If you plot global average temperatures for the last ten years (1999-2008) in Excel or whatever and then have it create a trend line, you'll see that it trends up, not down. Second, natural variability in climate is normal and expected. Global warming doesn't require that every year must be warmer than the last. Periods of cooling, even of ten years, are not only expected but a near certainty. Climate trends are measured in terms of 15-30 years or longer.
KJK
First, you have to look at trends, not the temperatures of individual years. If you plot global average temperatures for the last ten years (1999-2008) in Excel or whatever and then have it create a trend line, you'll see that it trends up, not down. Second, natural variability in climate is normal and expected. Global warming doesn't require that every year must be warmer than the last. Periods of cooling, even of ten years, are not only expected but a near certainty. Climate trends are measured in terms of 15-30 years or longer.
Arkansas Traveler
www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5067351/Rise-of...