FOX Nation Victory! Obama's Drive for Climate Change Bill Delayed!
President Barack Obama's push for quick action by Congress on climate change legislation suffered a setback on Thursday when the U.S. Senate committee leading the drive delayed work on the bill until September. Senate Environment and Public Works Committee Chairman Barbara Boxer said her self-imposed deadline of early August for finishing writing a bill to combat global warming has been put off until after Congress returns from a recess that ends in early September.
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KJK
Only one of 19 populations is known to be increasing, while 8 are known to be declining (http://tinyurl.com/ljbft2). And if the polar bears were to be wiped out by human-induced climated change, there ain't nothing "natural" about that...
Eric + Cheney
OK. Done. Anything else?
CzarsRUs
Well......they do produce a lot of methane gas which contributes to global warming, so maybe it was meant to be.
Mark Lessard
Don't worry the grizzly may be directly related and the polor bear in fact may be derived from them as well.
Grace
This does not mean we stop fighting and contacting our congressmen.
shadow65
No!! we have to keep at it . They aren't done with the down and dirty deals yet!
gbvinla
Some are declaring this bill dead in the Senate, and I pray it is. Please don't underestimate our President's ability to twist arms. It's Chicago politics as usual in Washington right now, but he has already given away 85% of what this bill will generate in order to get it through the House. His chips are running out. f you haven't contacted your Congressmen yet, please do NOW. Power in numbers and them putting it off proves my point.
moesite
gbvinla; ye, contact ALL SENATORS and keep contacting them. Dont let up! and dont contact only those senators from your state, contact them all!!!!! What they vote on affects all of us not just the people from their state.
here's a good site for list of all congressjerks:
www.myfreemailsearch.com/congress
and give obummer a piece of your mind, too:
www.whitehouse.gov
pappy
what ever happened to the hole in the ozone layer? if it's still there, maybe all the foul chemicals and some good ones too, are escaping there. thus, it would keep the earth's temperature in the safe range and heat outer space by one or two degrees, which wouldn't hurt being that it is colder than a witches tit in space.
Charles
Why is this a victory for Fox Nation?
So much for "FairandBalanced"
Fox is no longer a news organization
Greg
It is victory for common sense and sanity.
Kipling
Get over it, Charles! Thsi is a place for PEOPLE to voice opinons. The PEOPLE Won!
Fox News reports we decide.
Wizard's First Rule
Are you implying the Huffington Post is?
Ming
Your right, its a partial victory for America. If it gets trashed it will be a victory.
CzarsRUs
You mean Faux Noise don't you.? It is much more effective.
Defender of Freedom
When Boxer and Feinstein run for re-election, my family of 5 voters will not be voting for them. Time for some fresh new blood in California, Senators that will work for the people of California.
mapman
for those of you to young (or not born) we had a global climate scare which died when predictions didn't pan out. nowadays we have better equipment, smarter people, computer models etc. guess what, they are still guessing.
the problem is apparently so bad that a failed politician has to warn us, not someone who actually studies the subject. they are saying you can pollute as long as you send money to al gore (he owns a carbon credit co.) or another.
how mind dead do you have to be to fall for this. i not saying don't be green but come on, its a pyramid scheme. the top few get the money and pollute, we get poor and bad air.
SFM
CHINA & INDIA ALREADY SAID ...NO
Ken in Atlanta
Why don't liberals fix their roofs?
When its raining , they can't and when the sun is shining they don't leak.
If this makes sense to you , you might be a liberal.
U Know Who!!!
Only thing that I can add to that is "Boy!!! you guys and gals in Californery sure know how to pick um... Boxer, Pelosi, Waxman, Arnold etc, etc, etc....
ScubaDude63
Well said...wing nuts and without a doubt not in touch with the mainstream voters. Maybe they should actually go out in public and talk to some of the common folks. The members of congress are sitting at an all time low public confidence poll rating.
pch
wonder how many people will show up in washington D.C. on sept 12'th?
I hope at least one million.
moesite
pch; id love to but its absolutely impossible. I wish there were a way for those of us who cant go to be 'heard'.
a website where we could sign a petition or something.
its frustrating because i sure am pissed and would sure LOVE to be counted!!
Liberalphobic
I'm going. I refuse to let our America be destroyed by socialism without a fight. I can only hope that many more Americans feel the same way. Time to unite and fight.
Anti-Libtard
Well the sun is out here in Ga. So I would say it's warming
moesite
libtard; all this arguing about whether we're warming or not is, in my opinion, not the point right now. The point is --- since Congress has spent and borrowed and printed us into oblivion with stimulus, omnibus, bailouts, takeovers, and PORK, WE SIMPLY CANT AFFORD TO TACKLE THIS RIGHT NOW!!
CzarsRUs
Congratulations!!!!! You will win a Nobel Prize.
Anti-Libtard
I already have one for flat earth theory
Vietnam Veteran
Here in NW Indiana the clouds just arrived and it is starting to rain. We are experiencing cooling. How could that be, warming and cooling at the same time? This blows their theory.
CzarsRUs
Is the earth warming or cooling today? Has the EPA announced that yet??
Stoney
The peoples revolt is starting to show results. Time to turn up the heat.
moesite
stoney; CHAAAAAARGE! contact ALL SENATORS and keep contacting them!!
www.myfreemailsearch.com/congress for list of ALL CONGRESSJERKS with their contact info.
Sharon
www.912dc.org
SeaSchells
Here is the actual House vote on Cap and Tax:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll477.xml
If they voted for this, let's take them out in 2010! Let's send the message that we surround them!
Liberalphobic
Three republicans from my state of New Jersey voted for it..
LoBiondo, Kirk and Smith. I've written to Lobiondo twice and he didn't even reply. He is getting chewed up on our local talk radio and his chances for re-election are eroding daily.
freedom2012
Sorry for my ignorance...trying to get up to speed on all of this....what are the names and the States of the Rep(8) that voted for this outrageous bill?
SeaSchells
The 8 cap-and-tax Republican turncoats again are:
Bono Mack (CA) (202) 225-5330
Castle (DE) (202) 225-4165
Kirk (IL) (202) 225-4835 (And he’s seriously considering running for Senate!)
Lance (NJ) (202) 225-5361
LoBiondo (NJ) (202) 225-6572
McHugh (NY) (202) 225-4611
Reichert (WA) (202) 225-7761
Smith (NJ) (202) 225-3765
Liberalphobic
freedom2012 - Sorry, my comment was directed to you. I mistakenly commented to SeaSchells post.
Anti-Libtard
And you are wrong. The carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is not at record highs. In the 4.5 billion year history of the earth, carbon dioxide has been exponentially higher than it is now. If you are such an expert, please know what you are talking about
Army Vet
If you're going to use facts, use all of them. Since 1832, CO2 in the atmosphere has increased 35% Most of that increase has occured since 1960. CO2 absorbs infrared heat, therefore more C02=more heat. There's evidence all over the globe that the atmosphere is warming (besides the actual measurments), and that's just supposed to be coincidence or a totally natural occurance? Many people believed the Earth was flat and that the sun orbited the Earth long after they were proven otherwise. And so history repeats itself.
KJK
Nope, anti-libtard. Water vapor IS a more important GHG than CO2, but that doesn't mean that CO2 isn't also important. Water vaopr is a positive feedback: as climate warms due to increased GHGs, more water evaporates, and its own heat retention properties warm the atmosphere even further. The interrelationship between water vapor and temperature has been empirically observed. After Mt Pinatubo, particulate matter in the atmosphere led to cooling, which led to drying, which led to further cooling. Water vapor is an amplifier of the warming effect of increased GHG concentrations.
Anti-Libtard
You make us Army Veterans look like idiots. Yep CO2 has gone up 20 parts per million in the past 20 years. CO2 levels are at about 360 PPM in the atmosphere. that's 999,360 part of other elements. That mean out of 1,000,000 particles 360 of them are CO2. Water vapor runs up to about 40,000 PPM and holds over 1000 times more heat than CO2 because of it's density. So over all it would be fair to say that water vapor contributes 400,000 more times to GOREbal warming than CO2 does. You liberals are funny, give me real solid facts
Wizard's First Rule
Your 'scientific' logic would imply that the temperatures would have gone up accordingly. Sorry, doesn't wash with me. Why were the 70's so cold with snow drifts in central Nebraska over 20 feet high and cattle were walking over the fences? People like you were crying about an ice age coming and the end of humanity.
Wizard's First Rule: "People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People’s heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool."
Anti-Libtard
Additionally CO2 make up about .04% of the atmosphere. It's a trace element in the atmosphere. The "greenhouse gases" mainly consist of water vapor which in fact produces thousand more times the heat the CO2 produces, per molecule, because of it's density, how do we blame that on humans? Should I quit boiling water? I don't want to go on and on. You liberals need to do your research for yourselves, instead of using feelings
"confuse a liberal... use logic and facts"
KJK
No, what I want to see is an actual climate scientist saying anything like "1 degree C rise in temp due to co2 alone would equal about 5,000,000 degrees C rise in temp due to water vapor".
Anti-Libtard
KJK... duh. isn't that what I said. Water vapor has hundred of thousand times the impact on global warming that CO2 does. If co2 and water vapor were to proportionatle rise.... 1 degree C rise in temp due to co2 alone would equal about 5,000,000 degrees C rise in temp due to water vapor.no exageration. if you really want me to list chemical equations I will
KJK
Nope, anti-libtard. Water vapor IS a more important GHG than CO2, but that doesn't mean that CO2 isn't also important. Water vaopr is a positive feedback: as climate warms due to increased GHGs, more water evaporates, and its own heat retention properties warm the atmosphere even further. The interrelationship between water vapor and temperature has been empirically observed. After Mt Pinatubo, particulate matter in the atmosphere led to cooling, which led to drying, which led to further cooling. Water vapor is an amplifier of the warming effect of increased GHG concentrations.
Anti-Libtard
KJK... it's simple chemistry. The water vapor retains tens of thousands times more heat than the CO2. CO2 is a trace element. Using your example, it would be like that maximum concentration of PCBs, in a bottle of PCBs. It doesn't take more than a third grade education to understand, the water vapor in the air is thousands of times greater than the CO2 in the and hold thousands of times more heat. Nevermind, it's impossible to explainthis FACT stuff to a liberal full of feelings
KJK
What's the significance of this? If there's not much of something, it can't be important? If you think that's true, you should check the maximum recommended concentration of PCBs in drinking water. It's orders of magnitude less than the figure you quote.
Anti-Libtard
the .04 percent is that of the atmosphere, which is mostly nitrogen and oxygen, and a few trace elements such as greenhouse gases. Of the trace amount of greenhouse gases, CO2 is about 3% of that trace amount. Which makes it .04% of the entire atmosphere with N and O