FOX Nation Victory! Obama's Drive for Climate Change Bill Delayed!
President Barack Obama's push for quick action by Congress on climate change legislation suffered a setback on Thursday when the U.S. Senate committee leading the drive delayed work on the bill until September. Senate Environment and Public Works Committee Chairman Barbara Boxer said her self-imposed deadline of early August for finishing writing a bill to combat global warming has been put off until after Congress returns from a recess that ends in early September.
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Abisnana
My Senator George Voinovich will not vote for it. The other Senator from my state Sherrod Brown will. I have notified Brown that I will financially support the person who runs against him in the next election. We should all do that. And put what's left of our money where our mouths are. I will no longer support party hacks. I will support patriots in and out of my state.
George B
The United States of America was founded on the principles that we the people hold as true, these are the natural rights of every citizen given to them by “their” Creator. These rights support the dignity of the individual and the individual’s freedoms, choices and ambitions. Human beings have the right to live freely and pursue whatever motivates them, not because organized government dictates, but because these are the natural rights that are the human spirit. These are the ideals set forth in the United States Constitution.
The present and past Administrations of the United States Government have for the last eighty years with the exception of one presidency in the 1980’s, migrated toward the belief in supremacy of the state. These Administrations have ignored the principles set forth by our Founding Fathers in the Declaration of Independence and United States Constitution. They have promoted the philosophy that the freedom of the individual is secondary to the migration of society toward a “utopian state.” The present Administration has promoted this philosophy more rapidly that any in the past. However, this present Administration is no different than past electorates, all of whom were dissatisfied with the condition of their existence. This Administration is only more zealous in its condemnation of its fellow man and society itself for denying it the fulfillment, success and exaltation that it believes it deserves, without working for it.
Ex Pat
Nothing but rhetoric. You've used the most words I have ever seen to connote the simplest of ideas. Define FREEDOM. I dare you.
NY Transplant
Can't handle the truth can you, uber Lib?
The post was eloquent and spoke to the TRUE American heart. Only America-hating Libs like you would never understand it.
And btw, I'm a minority whose parents were immigrants from a Communist country. You libs have absolutely NO appreciation for the freedom we have in our country. There was equality in my parents' former country alright- everyone was equally miserable, poor, hungry, destitute and completely bereft of hope for a good future for themselves and their children. The *leaders* were the only ones to live well as I suspect BO does as TOTUS.
You far left libs are good at spinning and making socialism/communism a form of utopia. Only in your latte-addled minds...
dk
Well, so much for "fair and balanced".
CzarsRUs
Well.....it is definitely not fair that the climate bill is getting delayed. But life is full of these little disappointments.
dk
That really wasn't the point, now, was it?
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banditsmom
If anyone wants to see what is behind Al Gores global warming push, you need to read "Al Gores' Hypocrisy and Awards" by R. King. Be sure and read the zinc mine story
KJK
Whether we like Gore or not has nothing to do with whether the scientists are right or not, banditsmom.
Ex Pat
Ya, partisan fools think AL GORE invented the theory of Anthropogenic climate change, when in fact it was a proven theory long before Tipper wanted to ban heavy metal lyrics in music. Usually, when I see someone even MENTION Al and climate change in the same sentence, I ignore them. When someone mentions James Hansen, Carlos Nobre or Bob Watson, they get my attention.
KJK
Obviously, that sentence was supposed to be "we SHOULDN'T make any judgments...."
KJK
banditsmom, my point was just that Gore has nothing to do with the science, and we should make any judgments on the science with Gore (or any other politician) in mind. As for the scientists, considering that there around ten times as many scientists who agree with global warming as there are who disagree with it, my inclination is to go with the overwhelming consensus. I've read what they say, and I've read what the other side says, and I find them far more convincing.
banditsmom
KJK,
Has nothing to do with liking or disliking Gore, just read the article, There are several references to sites that other scientist have who do not agree with the scientist who say that global warming is a threat. Seems if you read all the different opinions from different scientist , you just decide who you trust more.
katt
We may have won a battle but there is still a big war out there we need to win. Send your senators e-mails or letters or call them. The more pressure we can put on them the better our chances.
cricket
So, this is the "Fair and Balanced" people, declaring VICTORY over a political event?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
These boys and girls don't even realize why that is funny.....
moesite
cricket; so tell us!
CzarsRUs
I know I don't.
Deb
Explain how this is considered a Fox Nation Victory??
DId anyone here influence anyone in the white House, in Congress or do you think the blogging made all the people scared?
njjoe
BOO HOO HOO
moesite
deb; youre not paying attention dear! Do you think all those advisors DONT keep their eyes on these kinds of sites? They certainly DO!
Just keep your head stuck in the sand and when you pull it out in a few months and realize there's stunning taxation and inflation and you cant afford to buy groceries -- who will you blame?
Excalibur
All of the above!
Enuf is enuf
Deb-the people need to be scared unless they want to give up their current life style and live in a third world country. Our way of life depends on cheaper energy. Bicycles for everyone!
Army Vet
And if the kids and grand kids have to pay the price for it, who cares?
Abisnana
I think We the People had a little something to do with this. I know I contacted our two Senators.
moesite
abisnana; keep contacting them AND ALL OTHER SENATORS! We've got them nervous!!
JoHnk
Yeah it's delayed, they don't want Ted kaczynski accussing president of plagerizing "The unabomber's manifesto"....BO's whole climate change agenda
Greg
Army Vet this is for you:
Have you really looked at the science? CO2 is a TRAILING indicator. It gets warm before the increase in CO2. Look at the latest studies. This goes back to solubility of gas in fluids, ie CO2 in the vast oceans. If CO2 at low ocean floor locations is given off it must surface being less dense. Link: http://jcbmac.chem.brown.edu/myl/hen/CO2Water.gif
Also, as land is lifted up from lower levels to highter levels from tecnonic movement, it lowers the pressure on the water and therefore less CO2 can be dissolved in the ocean water. End result - more CO2 in the air, not from people but from nature.
KJK
"CO2 is a TRAILING indicator" That's an oversimplification. CO2 and temp are interdependent, which means that BOTH "A causes B" and "B causes A" are true. In earlier warmings, the climate warmed due to whatever natural cause, which resulted in large amounts of stored CO2 being released by various natural processes such as melting permafrost. The added CO2 caused additional warming, and by the time it was all done, it was the CO2 that had caused most of the overall warming.
Army Vet
Um, so all the CO2 that comes out of our tailpipes and coal fired factories has no impact? It's just gone? While what you say may be true, to just say all the CO2 we produce just goes away makes no sense. Here's some more science - I've posted this before - CO2 in the atmosphere has increased 35% since 1832, most of that increase since 1960. What happened after 1960? A lot more cars and coal fired plants. As more coal plants have been built around the world, the increase in CO2 accelerates. That's measurable. Tectonic movements take eons, not decades.
The Deau
ok...everyone shut up...while the earth has gone thru this before...we humans...have burned gas and coal...for our luxury and way of life...burning fossil fuels doesn't help the earth...it harms it...suv's, factorys...and all of the devices that we have that use fossil fuels...HARM THE EARTH!!! the earth is o.ding...climate change is it's way of healing itself...oil company's don't want alternative fuels cuz they will lose money...can't have that...now can we...
The Deau
ok...everyone shut up...while the earth has gone thru this before...we humans...have burned gas and coal...for our luxury and way of life...burning fossil fuels doesn't help the earth...it harms it...suv's, factorys...and all of the devices that we have that use fossil fuels...HARM THE EARTH!!! the earth is o.ding...climate change is it's way of healing itself...oil company's don't want alternative fuels cuz they will lose money...can't have that...now can we...
The Deau
ok...everyone shut up...while the earth has gone thru this before...we humans...have burned gas and coal...for our luxury and way of life...burning fossil fuels doesn't help the earth...it harms it...suv's, factorys...and all of the devices that we have that use fossil fuels...HARM THE EARTH!!! the earth is o.ding...climate change is it's way of healing itself...oil company's don't want alternative fuels cuz they will lose money...can't have that...now can we...
The Deau
ok...everyone shut up...while the earth has gone thru this before...we humans...have burned gas and coal...for our luxury and way of life...burning fossil fuels doesn't help the earth...it harms it...suv's, factorys...and all of the devices that we have that use fossil fuels...HARM THE EARTH!!! the earth is o.ding...climate change is it's way of healing itself...oil company's don't want alternative fuels cuz they will lose money...can't have that...now can we...
KJK
"wouldn't it make sense that it may still be increasing". No. Global warming doesn't say that every year must be warmer than the previous. All it says is that it must be a little bit warmer than it would have been.
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Do a mental experiment. Picture a graph of temperatures over the last, say, 100 years, without global warming. The numbers don't matter, just picture its wavy appearance as we go through natural periods of relatively warmer and cooler weather. Now take the graph and make all the bars a little bit taller. That's global warming. It's still wavy, isn't it?
Anti-Libtard
well if we've already see a steady increase in CO2 for hundreds of years, wouldn't it make sense that it may still be increasing? there is not a shred of evidence that is it due to human produced emissions. it's a natural occurance that even Al Gore has show in his favorite chart. Come up with a different piece of science than that. Does it make sense that it has such a huge impact when it's only 360 PPM of atmospheric gas and water vapor is up to 40,000 PPM of atmospheric gas and hold over 1000 times more heat? CO2 is a trace element and it's amount of heat absorbtion is irelevant compared to water vapor.
Ex Pat
@Enuf is Enuf. Water is essential in life too. You'd die without it. Plants. Mammals. Insects. You name it, without Dihydrogen monoxide we'd simply cease to exist. Now, since is it such an important property in life, I want you to live in your swimming pool. Or, have a garden hose pump it into you home all day long and them tell me "too much of a good thing is a good thing".... ok?
KJK
Enuf: As in most things, moderation is the key. Enough CO2 is good. Too much CO2 is bad. The earth was in an equiblrium where things that produce CO2 were balanced by things that take up CO2, so the concentration remained pretty much steady. We've upset that balance by adding 25-30 gigatons of CO2 every year; the earth doesn't have the capacity to absorb all of it.
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On your second point, the existence of natural climate change doesn't preclude manmade cliamte change. Things can have more than one cause. Natural causes are unable to explain what's been happening since about 1975.
Enuf is enuf
More CO2 in th air? That's fine--there's nothing wrong with CO2. The plants, trees thrive on it. A basic question needs to be answered-how did the last ice age end? The earth started to warm up. I guess it was all the automotbiles and coal fired power plants.
Lourdes (I'm not PC)
I've seen several comments from people on this website who have written to their senators and representatives about this bill. I wrote to both my senators and my representative regarding this legislation. I think the Senate is getting the message from a lot of people, not just the "Fox Nation", but I do think we have contributed to putting pressure on them. We need to support some alternative energy sources, but not by destroying the economy.
Army Vet
A victory for Fox Nation and all the flat earthers out there. A stinging defeat for future generations.
Army Vet
Razmataz, I'm a retiree too. First Sergeant with 25 years. Let's see, the Earth is measurably warmer than a few decades ago, glaciers all over the globe and the ice caps are shrinking. All at the same time we've been increasing the CO2 in the atmosphere (CO2 retains heat - ask a chemist). Yeah, I'm the one that can't reason. It's all a coincidence!
KJK
razmataz " these same Chicken Littles were ranting about global cooling and the coming Ice-Age": This is the myth that just won't die. Go read some of that stuff from the 70s (here's an example: http://tinyurl.com/2toxfa). They were trying to explain an OBSERVED cooling, not predicting cooling. It's not the same thing. The whole article is about "IF this continues...". No one in there says that it WILL continue. Even in the 70s, most climate scientists predicted warming, not cooling.
Dannes
Wow, what incredible logic, Vet. You know, government regulation has gone up too. Wonder if there is a link there?
I'm retired Army myself, that doesn't give you the right to leave reason behind. If you spent that much time protecting America's freedoms, you shouldn't be in such a hurry to give them up now.
Greg
Have you really looked at the science? CO2 is a TRAILING indicator. It gets warm before the increase in CO2. Look at the latest studies. This goes back to solubility of gas in fluids, ie CO2 in the vast oceans and lakes. If CO2 at low ocean floor locations is given off it must surface being less dense. Link: http://jcbmac.chem.brown.edu/myl/hen/CO2Water.gif Also, as land is lifted up from lower levels to higher levels from tectonic movement, it lowers the pressure on the water and therefore less CO2 can be dissolved in the ocean water. Take a look at the number of locations that are now showing deep sea volcanic activity and plate movement. Uplifting plates? End result - more CO2 in the air, not from people but from nature.
razmataz
And they've also found ice in some northern regions and even more around Antarctica where there was none before. And, again, it is fact that the earth is 1dC cooler over the last ten years. And yes, perhaps the earth is warmer than decades ago, in the '70's these same Chicken Littles were ranting about global cooling and the coming Ice-Age. You're certainly old enough to remember that. Climate is cyclical and has been since the Big Bang, sunspots do more than CO2 and methane to affect our weather. And frankly, if you look at the big picture, yes, it is all coincidental. I suppose you viewed Gore's movie as unalterable fact as well.
razmataz
You couldn't be more wrong!
Army retiree, here, and apparently one with the ability to reason and inform myself. Or perhaps you like $4 a gallon gas. Get a clue!
Greg
Thanks Anti-Libtard for shining your light of facts on the pox that is global warming. I have been speaking with as many people as I can find about the huge holes in the AGW theory, and showing the videos that debunk it. Once we get to the core, it is only cap and trade, a money making scheme for trading magic beans and really put on steroids at the end of the Clinton administration. That is why Gore is so pissed, that was his way to pay back Bush for beating him in the elections.
truman
Prepare for the extinction of the polar bear.
breadman
the polar bear population has increased over the last decade, and if it does become extinct it is because it couldn't adapt, that is natural selection. Servival of the strong