"Dad"
I know it is not you because (1) Dad is an athiest and (2) He only speaks Greek. However, I agree no one achieves "honesty", although we all strive towards it. Regards.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 06:58 PM
Demosthenes Dad.
I understand you speak legalese on the Fox Forum. Remember one thing."This Matter of Honesty"
Only God can fully know what absolute honesty is. Therefore, each of us has to conceive what this great ideal may be- to the best of our ability. Fallible as we all are and will be in this life, it would be presumptuous to suppose that we could ever really achieve absolute honesty. Sometimes we need to place love ahead of indiscriminate factual honesty. We can not under the guise of "Perfect Honesty" unnecessarily hurt others. Always one must ask, what is the best and most loving thing I can do.
Your mother have prayed over this decision and came to the conclusion that you have been ostracized from the family as you know it.
If and when you find the God of your understanding we will take into consideration your willingness to change your life. Until that day please do not contact us for additional funds.
Maybe one left wing liberal professors that look forward to you being in the same class year after year will take you under their care
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 06:30 PM
Demosthenes
Patera kai Matera mou:
Decanes! To spiti enee kali? Po eeni o Theo Konstantinos kai Thea Jean? Yasou kai andaya!
XXXOOO
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 06:23 PM
AESCHNINES
This forum is strange, Demosthenes, my old Foe. Why dost thou hide in mediocrity. You and I have discussed civilizations in our youth. What matters records of such a young one? Unless he wears the Crown. Thy have stolen My Crown from me, my Enemy. Your Pen is sharp, your tongue dull. Thy Father less than a Blade sharpener. Aren't thy the one I seek? Are you not Demosthenes? Or are you an Impostor. Just give voice, Nay or Yea. I will travel the cosmos until I have found the one I seek. Come forth Oh Sharp Blade. Is it truly you,Demosthenes?
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 05:17 PM
Demosthenes
Clever again! I have met my match, although I admit I am just not "ancient" in my diction and grammar, Patrioti.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 06:25 PM
Ange V.
If I were a Democrat, I'd be nervous too. We will find out the truth. It's just a matter of time...TICK TOCK, TICK TOCK!
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:59 PM
Ange V.
Did you have a point?
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 05:26 PM
Demosthenes
I was laughing at your comment, but I am now afraid you are being serious. If that's the case, I think you prove my point.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 05:12 PM
Jamie
This has nothing to do with Republicans. This has everything to do with Truth, Transparency, and the Constitution.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:56 PM
Demosthenes
Yeah, right. sure.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 05:13 PM
Nick
What a joke. Name ONE Republican Party leader who has taken this seriously.
The two-party system is scamming us all. It's not about Republicans v. Democrats; it's about statists v. Constitutionalists.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:56 PM
Demosthenes
Oh, Niko, I forgot to add Roger Ailes, the Republican Party hack that heads up Fox "News".
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 06:26 PM
Nick
First of all, Murdoch is not a Republican Party leader. And second, even if that were the case, why wouldn't this be all over Fox News TV rather than just this website?
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 05:40 PM
Demosthenes
Rupert Murdoch, the head of the propaganda arm of the Republican Party (a/k/a Fox "News"). If the Republican Party didn't approve, this would not be on this website or on Fox "News".
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 05:14 PM
Carolina Gal
I wish one of these news agencies would address this matter and debunk it if it really isn't an issue, like Beck did about the FEMA camps. I wish they would address the BC, passport, college records, etc. and show why they think we are all idiots for questioning these unresolved matters.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:42 PM
JAMES
Why spend so much on lawyers when the guy could pay like 13.00 for his birth certificate and end all the controversy?Something is not right,and hell yeah we want the truth.So much for transparency.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:42 PM
Melody
Please cover this story. You've been covering ACORN. Cover this story. We need to find out the truth. Why does he spend so much money hiding his BC? We couldn't get away with that. It makes me sick seeing what he's doing to this country. Please help us.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:36 PM
Nick
This is the story of the decade, and Fox needs to take it seriously.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:50 PM
Beth Cathy
Yes, he should. I voted for him, I will admit I am disappointed but I didn't like McCain either. I don't see any change except change that I don't want. He is behaving like a Communist and I don't like it. He won't get my vote again. I've researched this birth certificate and it seems very fishy. The one posted on the internet is the kind that anyone can get after the fact. Many people have these and were not born in the US. The fact that he is reluctant to show the vault copy is very suspicious to me.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:36 PM
55medical
Considering all the socialist, entitlement crowd, all BO has to do is keep on dividing us until it is too late. I have never seen a dumber Press Secretary than Gibbs.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:35 PM
john
Yes,by all means.
What year did Hawaii become a state?
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:34 PM
Jamie
August 21, 1959
Why does it matter?
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:59 PM
arch
o lordie help us, we is all gonna die cause a dis her antichrist. help me jesus
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:33 PM
Charlene
I want to praise Fox News for allowing this question to be asked. I, for one, of millions just want to understand what the problem is!
I donnot know where he was born. I do , by his own word, that his Father was a citizen of Kenya . His Mother was not eleigible to pass on citizenship, HA law allowed any one who wanted to obtain a certificate of Birth (note : not birthcertificate) I know he went to 3 colleges and we know none of his history the only Degree I have any proof of is the one ND just gave him.
I would just like to see some ,actually all of his college records, his Thesis is even locked up! WHY? Simple answers!
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:31 PM
Justin
It's about time! Let's find out the truth so this can be put to rest.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:31 PM
TimeToTellTheTruth.net
www.TimeToTellTheTruth.net
Yes, someone needs to investigate the biggest hoax in American History; usurper of the Presidency. Also tell your Congressmen to sign onto and support H.R. 1503 which will amend the Federal Election Campaign Act to require that all candidates meet the qualifications for eligibility to the Office of President under the Constitution, including the 2012 election. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1503
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 07:17 PM
ash
You guys just don’t get it. The Birth Certificate is there. Why show it now? Let this bogus tide grow, let the right wing build on this. Get Fox News working on it. Build it to a fever pitch. Get everyone attuned to the attack of the right saying he is not a citizen, even after the state where he was born has confirmed he was actually born there. Make this BIG. Then, once the certificate is shown, it will make anything this cabal says look silly from then on out. Go for it.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:31 PM
Jamie
He should show it now, because it's about time! It's only been a year of this nonsense. Right now, we have no definitive evidence that he is eligible for the position he holds at all.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 05:02 PM
guy4013
Ash,
The birth certificate is only part of his problem. If he shows it, his father was still a British citizen from Kenya and with that Soetoro can NEVER be a "NATURAL BORN" citizen.
He may be a U.S. citizen but NEVER a "NATURAL BORN" citizen.
I hope you understand the difference.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:47 PM
Randy
Barry Soetoro needs to release it! We have a Constitutional Right to know where his true intentions lie.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:30 PM
CharlieC
The corrupt elites & the Bogus POTUS needs to be removed!
All who have violated their Oath!
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:39 PM
Gary
Biden couldn't be the president...he was picked by the illegal one...the usurper Barry Soetoro...Pelosi (yuk) would be the INTERIM president until a new election.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:27 PM
Jamie
Biden's not great, but at least he was born in Delaware.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 05:05 PM
LT
Did you nap during civics/government class? Your ignorance is frightening!
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:47 PM
Michael
If it takes only four positive votes in order for one of the many cases concerning BO's citizen status to be heard. Which of the four "so called" conservative justices is failing to vote for a open hearing to get this settled? If he is truly a citizen, remove the stigma from his administration. If he is an illegal alien, send him packing before this country goes bankrupt.
Maybe the constitution needs amending to allow for recall of supreme court justices and presidents?
Just a thought.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:24 PM
Ralph
Fox news is part of the problem!
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:23 PM
rjg333
YES, YES, YES - It's about time!
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:19 PM
FlashBack
Scrutinize it carefully IF it is 'produced'...they've had ample time to 'make' one...and spent alot of money to keep it out of the public view!
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:35 PM
Jamie
True, but it's easier said than done. Many claim that the COLB he produced was a complete forgery as well. Plus there's also the issue of his trip to Indonesia that needs to be addressed. At any rate, the situation we're in right now is completely unacceptable.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 05:08 PM
jim
Hell yes he should. The man is a complete frickin fraud.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:24 PM
Truth-Will-Win!
We want this issue dealt with... and dealt with NOW!
"We the People" implore you FOX to get to the bottom of this issue.... not later... BUT NOW! You have a "Patriotic" duty; apart from the fact that you claim to report the TRUTH! How many 1,000's of Comments here will it take for you to pursue this matter?
How much effort does it really take to provide your birth certificate?
Will it take every billboard across this Nation screaming out:-
"WHERE IS THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?" before someone will finally get the message that this is and has been an issue here for more than a year, and still is? A MAJOR ISSUE! They don't come much bigger!
If ever "We the People" ever needed a News organization to take on a cause for the good of this Nation, IT IS NOW!
C'mon FOX, you can do it! Please!
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:16 PM
TheMan
BO's Kenyan grandma says he was born in Kenya. Would BO call her a liar?
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:14 PM
christinek
yea, he'd throw anyone[even grandma] under the bus to save himself.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 06:06 PM
TheMan
WorldNetDaily is the best place to go for updated info on this subject. Where is Fox?
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:36 PM
Hossman
I just took my Daughter in for her Drivers license. The clerk asked for a copy of her s.s.card and her birth certificate. Jokingly I asked the clerk why she had to have a valid copy of her BC when the President of the United States has not supplied a bonefide copy prior to taking office? The clerk did not see the humor in my question and answered sharply "The law requires a person to produce a valid copy of their BC so as it can be verified they are eligible by residence and legally by age to aquire a drivers license in this state" After we left the licensing office I told my Daughter it would have been much easier for her to run for President than getting her drivers license as nobody cares to verify a persons legality or eligibility when running for President.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:31 PM
guy4013
Sad. but true.
She needed the media to cover for her as she applied for the license.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:50 PM
Lora in MI
So when can we expect to see this issue hashed out on Beck or Hannity? I would very much like to see this issue resolved once and for all.
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:13 PM
Don
Include me in as 400,001 and growing! You can run but you can't hide! Barry
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:10 PM
BETTY Turner
His very name means "lightening" and since he entered office with THE POWER,he has moved very fast with our money and bowed to his Muslin faith as THE MESSIAH!! He can be none other than THE ANTICHRIST!!!! If this is true, and the Holy Bible does not lie, we are in for the 'ride' of our lives. My suggestion is bow to the REAL Christ whose name is JESUS!!!! Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that JESUS CHRIST IS LORD!!!
Friday, May 29, 2009 at 04:08 PM
caregiver
I hope you have family or a friend taking care of you, betty.
Demosthenes
"Dad"
I know it is not you because (1) Dad is an athiest and (2) He only speaks Greek. However, I agree no one achieves "honesty", although we all strive towards it. Regards.
Demosthenes Dad.
I understand you speak legalese on the Fox Forum. Remember one thing."This Matter of Honesty"
Only God can fully know what absolute honesty is. Therefore, each of us has to conceive what this great ideal may be- to the best of our ability. Fallible as we all are and will be in this life, it would be presumptuous to suppose that we could ever really achieve absolute honesty. Sometimes we need to place love ahead of indiscriminate factual honesty. We can not under the guise of "Perfect Honesty" unnecessarily hurt others. Always one must ask, what is the best and most loving thing I can do.
Your mother have prayed over this decision and came to the conclusion that you have been ostracized from the family as you know it.
If and when you find the God of your understanding we will take into consideration your willingness to change your life. Until that day please do not contact us for additional funds.
Maybe one left wing liberal professors that look forward to you being in the same class year after year will take you under their care
Demosthenes
Patera kai Matera mou:
Decanes! To spiti enee kali? Po eeni o Theo Konstantinos kai Thea Jean? Yasou kai andaya!
XXXOOO
AESCHNINES
This forum is strange, Demosthenes, my old Foe. Why dost thou hide in mediocrity. You and I have discussed civilizations in our youth. What matters records of such a young one? Unless he wears the Crown. Thy have stolen My Crown from me, my Enemy. Your Pen is sharp, your tongue dull. Thy Father less than a Blade sharpener. Aren't thy the one I seek? Are you not Demosthenes? Or are you an Impostor. Just give voice, Nay or Yea. I will travel the cosmos until I have found the one I seek. Come forth Oh Sharp Blade. Is it truly you,Demosthenes?
Demosthenes
Clever again! I have met my match, although I admit I am just not "ancient" in my diction and grammar, Patrioti.
Ange V.
If I were a Democrat, I'd be nervous too. We will find out the truth. It's just a matter of time...TICK TOCK, TICK TOCK!
Ange V.
Did you have a point?
Demosthenes
I was laughing at your comment, but I am now afraid you are being serious. If that's the case, I think you prove my point.
Jamie
This has nothing to do with Republicans. This has everything to do with Truth, Transparency, and the Constitution.
Demosthenes
Yeah, right. sure.
Nick
What a joke. Name ONE Republican Party leader who has taken this seriously.
The two-party system is scamming us all. It's not about Republicans v. Democrats; it's about statists v. Constitutionalists.
Demosthenes
Oh, Niko, I forgot to add Roger Ailes, the Republican Party hack that heads up Fox "News".
Nick
First of all, Murdoch is not a Republican Party leader. And second, even if that were the case, why wouldn't this be all over Fox News TV rather than just this website?
Demosthenes
Rupert Murdoch, the head of the propaganda arm of the Republican Party (a/k/a Fox "News"). If the Republican Party didn't approve, this would not be on this website or on Fox "News".
Carolina Gal
I wish one of these news agencies would address this matter and debunk it if it really isn't an issue, like Beck did about the FEMA camps. I wish they would address the BC, passport, college records, etc. and show why they think we are all idiots for questioning these unresolved matters.
JAMES
Why spend so much on lawyers when the guy could pay like 13.00 for his birth certificate and end all the controversy?Something is not right,and hell yeah we want the truth.So much for transparency.
Melody
Please cover this story. You've been covering ACORN. Cover this story. We need to find out the truth. Why does he spend so much money hiding his BC? We couldn't get away with that. It makes me sick seeing what he's doing to this country. Please help us.
Nick
This is the story of the decade, and Fox needs to take it seriously.
Beth Cathy
Yes, he should. I voted for him, I will admit I am disappointed but I didn't like McCain either. I don't see any change except change that I don't want. He is behaving like a Communist and I don't like it. He won't get my vote again. I've researched this birth certificate and it seems very fishy. The one posted on the internet is the kind that anyone can get after the fact. Many people have these and were not born in the US. The fact that he is reluctant to show the vault copy is very suspicious to me.
55medical
Considering all the socialist, entitlement crowd, all BO has to do is keep on dividing us until it is too late. I have never seen a dumber Press Secretary than Gibbs.
john
Yes,by all means.
What year did Hawaii become a state?
Jamie
August 21, 1959
Why does it matter?
arch
o lordie help us, we is all gonna die cause a dis her antichrist. help me jesus
Charlene
I want to praise Fox News for allowing this question to be asked. I, for one, of millions just want to understand what the problem is!
I donnot know where he was born. I do , by his own word, that his Father was a citizen of Kenya . His Mother was not eleigible to pass on citizenship, HA law allowed any one who wanted to obtain a certificate of Birth (note : not birthcertificate) I know he went to 3 colleges and we know none of his history the only Degree I have any proof of is the one ND just gave him.
I would just like to see some ,actually all of his college records, his Thesis is even locked up! WHY? Simple answers!
Justin
It's about time! Let's find out the truth so this can be put to rest.
TimeToTellTheTruth.net
www.TimeToTellTheTruth.net
Yes, someone needs to investigate the biggest hoax in American History; usurper of the Presidency. Also tell your Congressmen to sign onto and support H.R. 1503 which will amend the Federal Election Campaign Act to require that all candidates meet the qualifications for eligibility to the Office of President under the Constitution, including the 2012 election.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1503
ash
You guys just don’t get it. The Birth Certificate is there. Why show it now? Let this bogus tide grow, let the right wing build on this. Get Fox News working on it. Build it to a fever pitch. Get everyone attuned to the attack of the right saying he is not a citizen, even after the state where he was born has confirmed he was actually born there. Make this BIG. Then, once the certificate is shown, it will make anything this cabal says look silly from then on out. Go for it.
Jamie
He should show it now, because it's about time! It's only been a year of this nonsense. Right now, we have no definitive evidence that he is eligible for the position he holds at all.
guy4013
Ash,
The birth certificate is only part of his problem. If he shows it, his father was still a British citizen from Kenya and with that Soetoro can NEVER be a "NATURAL BORN" citizen.
He may be a U.S. citizen but NEVER a "NATURAL BORN" citizen.
I hope you understand the difference.
Randy
Barry Soetoro needs to release it! We have a Constitutional Right to know where his true intentions lie.
CharlieC
The corrupt elites & the Bogus POTUS needs to be removed!
All who have violated their Oath!
Gary
Biden couldn't be the president...he was picked by the illegal one...the usurper Barry Soetoro...Pelosi (yuk) would be the INTERIM president until a new election.
Jamie
Biden's not great, but at least he was born in Delaware.
LT
Did you nap during civics/government class? Your ignorance is frightening!
Michael
If it takes only four positive votes in order for one of the many cases concerning BO's citizen status to be heard. Which of the four "so called" conservative justices is failing to vote for a open hearing to get this settled? If he is truly a citizen, remove the stigma from his administration. If he is an illegal alien, send him packing before this country goes bankrupt.
Maybe the constitution needs amending to allow for recall of supreme court justices and presidents?
Just a thought.
Ralph
Fox news is part of the problem!
rjg333
YES, YES, YES - It's about time!
FlashBack
Scrutinize it carefully IF it is 'produced'...they've had ample time to 'make' one...and spent alot of money to keep it out of the public view!
Jamie
True, but it's easier said than done. Many claim that the COLB he produced was a complete forgery as well. Plus there's also the issue of his trip to Indonesia that needs to be addressed. At any rate, the situation we're in right now is completely unacceptable.
jim
Hell yes he should. The man is a complete frickin fraud.
Truth-Will-Win!
We want this issue dealt with... and dealt with NOW!
"We the People" implore you FOX to get to the bottom of this issue.... not later... BUT NOW! You have a "Patriotic" duty; apart from the fact that you claim to report the TRUTH! How many 1,000's of Comments here will it take for you to pursue this matter?
How much effort does it really take to provide your birth certificate?
Will it take every billboard across this Nation screaming out:-
"WHERE IS THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?" before someone will finally get the message that this is and has been an issue here for more than a year, and still is? A MAJOR ISSUE! They don't come much bigger!
If ever "We the People" ever needed a News organization to take on a cause for the good of this Nation, IT IS NOW!
C'mon FOX, you can do it! Please!
TheMan
BO's Kenyan grandma says he was born in Kenya. Would BO call her a liar?
christinek
yea, he'd throw anyone[even grandma] under the bus to save himself.
TheMan
WorldNetDaily is the best place to go for updated info on this subject. Where is Fox?
Hossman
I just took my Daughter in for her Drivers license. The clerk asked for a copy of her s.s.card and her birth certificate. Jokingly I asked the clerk why she had to have a valid copy of her BC when the President of the United States has not supplied a bonefide copy prior to taking office? The clerk did not see the humor in my question and answered sharply "The law requires a person to produce a valid copy of their BC so as it can be verified they are eligible by residence and legally by age to aquire a drivers license in this state" After we left the licensing office I told my Daughter it would have been much easier for her to run for President than getting her drivers license as nobody cares to verify a persons legality or eligibility when running for President.
guy4013
Sad. but true.
She needed the media to cover for her as she applied for the license.
Lora in MI
So when can we expect to see this issue hashed out on Beck or Hannity? I would very much like to see this issue resolved once and for all.
Don
Include me in as 400,001 and growing! You can run but you can't hide! Barry
BETTY Turner
His very name means "lightening" and since he entered office with THE POWER,he has moved very fast with our money and bowed to his Muslin faith as THE MESSIAH!! He can be none other than THE ANTICHRIST!!!! If this is true, and the Holy Bible does not lie, we are in for the 'ride' of our lives. My suggestion is bow to the REAL Christ whose name is JESUS!!!! Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that JESUS CHRIST IS LORD!!!
caregiver
I hope you have family or a friend taking care of you, betty.