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Barbarella
CHECK THIS OUT!
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=99035
Joe
I'm with Sandra. I'm done with these fools at FoxNews. They are merely the lesser of many evils. Maybe if their ratings that O'Reilly loves to puff him up so much with start to drop, they'll get the message to do some ACTUAL investigative reporting on this issue which is central to and propping up all of the marxist's other disastrous decisions. I'll get my news somewhere else on the web
Terminix
I think DUTCH blow gasket, can now see him flopping around on floor like "RAID SPRAYED ROACH" spray is stronger than thought..... should have read MSDS,
I guess.
Joe
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/
Explains a great deal of the controversy minus the Indonesian connection.
I hope Baghdad Bob Gibbs gets a prison bunk right next to his bosss
Ken Dunbar
Yes, he should be TRANSPARENT and release his long form 1961 birth certificate. And beyond that, it doesn';t matter hwre he was born, as he is NOT a natural born citizen. he was British at birth, as he admits on hios own c website which is still available on line. To paraphrase the quoation on that birth certificate page on Fight The Smears: British law governed his birth status.
OG
I believe that any candidate for any office should show their birth certificate at the time they register to run for office. Not after the fact. If we as American citizens have to show ID to vote, ID or other pieces of verification to get a driver's license then why would our politicians not have to show their birth certificates. This is not old news until it has been proven and over with. Does he have something to hide? If not, why has it taken so long to produce a birth certificate or what ever is issued by his birth state. Seems simple enough to me if you want to show people you are not hiding anything.
Penny
How on earth can someone even RUN for president of the United States without providing a valid birth certificate? The act of holding it back from the public is proof that there is problem, just release it already!
John
Dutch, that COLB that you are so proud of is a fake, fraud, and had been proven to be just that, just like the USURPER sitting in the whitehouse, its only a matter of time before the cuff's go on and this national nightmare is over.
Dutch
So why has the State of Hawaii stood by it? Why haven't the republican Governor and the Republican Attorney General prosecuted him fro violation of Hawaiian laws. I assume you know that it is against the law in Hawaii to fake a certified birth certificate. You do realize this, don't you? WHY?
Terminix
Sprayed at http://www.factcheck.org, last week...Info post there means spray is working...YAAAAA
laffinatu
Thanks Terminix , I see you sprayed at DUTCH and MrDNA also..their comments would indicate it is working there also.
Keep up the good work!
Thinker
Think people! If he were born in Hawaii, as he claims, he would have a Birth Certificate from Hawaii. Since all he has to show us is a certificate given to those NOT born there . . .he is NOT American Born!!
Patriotic Broker
From www.usconstitution.net
Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"
Anyone born inside the United States *
Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
* There is an exception in the law - the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.
RamJet767
PB,
A "citizen of the USA at birth" is NOT a "natural born citizen of the USA at birth". Title 8 Section 1401 grants citizenship at birth, not natural born citizenship (NBC). NBC status can only be obtained by the facts of nature at birth, not a law. See the essays about Natural Born Citizenship at:
http://www.thebirthers.org/
RJ
md_wv
Judy - I couldn't make heads or tails on you comment and I'm not suprised because it was stupid , it's just the same old neo-con talking points that makes you sound very foolish , the only chaos that exist in that spoon fed propaganda brain of yours , keep thinking those twisted thoughts , and YOU are wrong on this being a neo-con issue , it started and continues to be a staple of fixed news and fixnation to discredit the President , you bear false witness against my President . My country love it or leave IT .
Judy
Mw_wv...you are wrong about this being a far-right issue. In fact, I know a lot of democrats who have been involved in petitioning this issue as well. The law is the law and the constitution is the constitution. However, there will always be those who disrespect the law and the constitution, but it still doesn't change the law from being the law and the constitution from being the constitution with constitutional requirements to set apart a nation with rules versus one run by chaos as we are currently seeing in our nation. All the rules have flown out the window. From what I've read communists who are trying to overtake a nation use the very act of causing chaos and confusion to try to take over a government.
RamJet767
Dutch,
Wrong oh you dutch master of spin! You can deceive some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time. Go smoke a cigar and blow smoke somewhere else.
A "citizen of the USA at birth" is NOT a "natural born citizen of the USA at birth". Title 8 Section 1401 grants citizenship at birth, not natural born citizenship (NBC). NBC status can only be obtained by the facts of nature at birth, not a law. See the essays about Natural Born Citizenship at:
http://www.thebirthers.org/
RJ
wolfman
It is NOT old news. He should cough up. Who knows, it might even help his credibility, or what little he has!
MrDNA
What a bunch of conspiracy theorists.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Too bad the Old guy didn't win huh?
McGrumpy: "Get off my lawn!"
McPalin: "Deeerrr!"
Ha!
What a bunch of ultramaroons!
J. Mezo
MrDNA, Doesn't it strike you as strange that the certification stamp in 2007 isn't visible in any full picture photos. I have an open mind but your so called proof begs questions. And what about the reported differences colors of borders in different years. Got anything there?
Terminix
MrDNA be little "boring, tunneling. tube worm"...... I come fix problem.
RamJet767
Dutch,
You are wrong and spreading incorrect information, probably deliberately. The Wong Kim Ark supreme court case in 1898 did not declare him a "natural born citizen" but declared him simply a Citizen of the USA. Birth in the USA per the 14th Amendment and the Wong Kim Ark decision gets one ordinary U.S. Citizenship, not Natural Born Citizenship. Natural Born Citizenship in a country is conveyed by the facts of nature at birth and not by any law or statue. Per Vattel and Bacon if you are born in the country to parents who are both citizens of the country you are a Natural Born Citizen of that country since at birth you have no allegiance or claims to or by any other country. See this simple chart which describes the 5 types of citizenship mentioned in the U.S. Constitution and the legal references defining such:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11737124/
http://www.thebirthers.org/
RJ
Scott
"The COLB is perfectly valid proof in the eyes of the law."
Not when it has been proven a fraud by an expert!
See Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pveB3uA8go4&feature=related
christinek
OK, Look at what our founding fathers said about Duel Allegience. FOUNDING FATHERS TRUMP JUSTICE GRAY!
RamJet767
Dutch,
You have never even read the Constitution. The 18th amendment has nothing to do with citizenship in the USA.
You are also wrong about the Wong Kim Ark case.
You are wrong and spreading incorrect information, probably deliberately. The Wong Kim Ark supreme court case in 1898 did not declare him a "natural born citizen" but declared him simply a Citizen of the USA. Birth in the USA per the 14th Amendment and the Wong Kim Ark decision gets one ordinary U.S. Citizenship, not Natural Born Citizenship. Natural Born Citizenship in a country is conveyed by the facts of nature at birth and not by any law or statue. Per Vattel and Bacon if you are born in the country to parents who are both citizens of the country you are a Natural Born Citizen since at birth you have no allegiance or claims to or by any other country. See this simple chart which describes the 5 types of citizenship mentioned in the U.S. Constitution and the legal references defining such:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11737124/
http://www.thebirthers.org/
RJ
btw
This is Reply on the post by Dutch:
I just checked http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.amendmentxviii.html
No such a statement in 18 Amendment.
Truth in Action
Dutch, keep on showing your ignorance. Nowhere in "United States v. Wong Kim Ark" is the term "Natural Born Citizen" used. Only "born citizen" and "native-born citizen". There is a huge difference. Native-born applies to where a child is born. Natural born applies to who a child is born to. But thanks for pushing the post count up!
Ange V.
Then it shouldn't be too hard to come up with a VALID birth certificate! We're waiting....
Dutch
The COLB is perfectly valid proof in the eyes of the law.
super dave
Dutch yes we are whacked out and that is what makes us extra fun to be around.anyone want a nut cake hey how about you dutch you like nut cakes.no wait your a sheep you keep following the people that lie to you too get your vote remember change what change we will let you pay the higher taxes that are coming.
Terminix
DUTCH be little "boring, tunneling. tube worm"...... I come fix problem.
Charlene
Another weird example that causes me to question his transparency.......
The adress that was used on the Birth Announcement belongs to a woman who has lived and still does live there. She also has stated that she remembers NO white woman with a black child anywhere on the street!
There are so many questions, yet no proof either way. If it were me I would certainly do all I could to show the people that have entrusted me inly do all and EVERYTHING to prove the *birther loons* wrong. He hasn't and in my opinion it is too late. He needs to go! BIden, Pelosi and all involved in this horrible scam need to go too!
Dutch
B.S.
Audited
I sent a certified copy of my birth certificate to the White House, just so they could see what one looks like. I even sent a blank form to order a birth certificate from the State of Hawaii. I was just trying to help.
Alice
Correction, media are beginning to mention it and this will snowball-- with the amount of discontent against obummer the pressure is mounting to get the BC out now.
LeClaire
Sad when Billboards work better than the Media.
Dutch
Ha, those billboards are a joke. You lose.
Dutch
Paranoia means never having to apologize for being scared.
Show us the Long Form if its no Problem
Your right on Karen, it is not old news if the question has not been answered. Where's the transparency, is there a concern that we will find something out? Why all the lawyers to block access?
Matt H.
Dutch...What does COLB stand for? Certificate Of Live Birth not Certification Of Live Birth. Really are you that brain dead?
Dutch
The COLB is perfectly acceptable in a court of law. Look up Prima facia evidence.
cheany is god
this must be addressed aspa If this nation is to trust our president
Nick
I want to see this story on Judge Andrew Napolitano's weekly internet show "Freedom Watch." It's the best show on Fox News.
AAAAANDRE
"It's on the Internet"
BAH! There is "proof" that Big Foot exists, and that UFO's are real on the Internet too. I want to see it in the Library of Congress examined by the FBI.
Dutch
And where id you get all your information that you claim proves that the BC is fake? From the Internet, correct?
Dutch
---"It's not the BC fool.....that's the whole point!!!!"--- What the hell are you babbling about now?
christinek
It's not the BC fool.....that's the whole point!!!!
PAUL FROM BURBANK CA
Wake Up People!!! Every time this issue of his bon a fides comes up with the left they Alinsky it. freeze it, attack them as weirdoes. But if he is spending real money to hide his records, well then, he has something to hide. PLEASE!! Fox check this out and you'll see the fire and feel the heat from the white house...
JP
EXCELLENT PAUL:
It might help, for those not familiar with Alinsky, to explain a little.
PAUL FROM BURBANK CA
Wake Up People!!! Every time this issue of his bon a fides comes up with the left they Alinsky it. freeze it, attack them as weirdoes. But if he is spending real money to hide his records, well then, he has something to hide. PLEASE!! Fox check this out and you'll see the fire and feel the heat from the white house...