The only reason this came up is because his grandmother, who has never left Kenya, said she was there when he was born. I think he should show an actual birth certificate instead of a certificate of live birth to shut all this up one way or another.
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 09:58 AM
MurrayAbraham
The state of Hawaii delivers Certifications of Live Birth, no Birth Certificates. It's like paper money, it's not written on it but its still money :o)
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 10:24 AM
Recon
Ann agree, it's a dead end swan song until the big dogs dig their heels.
Americans are beyond TOLERANCE of your grandiose Plan to Dismantle the Constitution & Country!
What a shallow TREASONOUS canard.
It is time to burn the “political play book” and go with something innovative.
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 10:34 PM
Lazerray
Watch it Ann, your book sales may drop. Your wrong on this one.
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 09:57 PM
joeyblueyes
IN THE WITCH DOCTORS TENT
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 08:59 PM
rcaamo
Both Ann Coulter and Bill O'Reilly shot it down in less than 2 minutes with ridicule and distain . Well even Mike Hukabee noted that the Clintons would have found it out during the race. The FBI, the CIA, it all seems so futile. Yet, I have to say my mind is not satisfied and may never be. I smell smoke. There is just too much smoke to say there is no fire.
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 07:42 PM
JamesW62
yeah didnt OReilly claim that he saw the cerfiticate or something like that a couple of days ago
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 12:55 AM
chrisd
There's no fire. Just a few people with a smoke machine.
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 08:04 PM
National Guard Mom
Also Ann you can't find an article in any of of archives of any Hawaiian Newspaper showing the actual birth announcement . That should tell you
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 07:33 PM
chrisd
What? The birth announcement appeared in both the major local newspapers.
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 08:05 PM
dk
"Anyone can make an announcement" No. One of the Hawaiian newspapers has stated that it has always gotten its announcements from the health department, not from the public.
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 10:55 PM
joeyblueyes
WHO WOOD WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT BIRTH
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 09:00 PM
profcje
So what is your point? Anyone can make an announcement.
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 08:30 PM
profcje
I was actually BIRTHED in Hawaii as Obummer purports. Guess what? I have a Certificate of LIVE Birth from Tripler Army Hospital AND a BIRTH CERTIFICATE from the Territory of Hawaii. Why can Obummer only come up with a Certificate of Birth?
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 07:14 PM
dk
Well, my birth certificate was destroyed in a fire over 50 years ago. My wife doesn't have her original either. Did it ever occur to you that it could have been destroyed or lost?
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 08:08 PM
profcje
is that tongue-in-cheek? I was born in '52, I can get either upon request. Meaning no disrespect, did your wife even consider requesting one? With this much controversy, why hasn't the Kenyan?
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 08:21 PM
TX_Family
Does anybody honestly believe that if there was anything to be found that the Clinton's couldn't and wouldn't have unearthed it to secure the election? Come on stop letting the Dems use this as a whipping post to promote Republican bias!
I like Ann Coulter, but feel she is wrong on this issue.
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 04:44 PM
splavistic
Geez. Who are you perverted 'Conservatives' going to self stimulate over, now? tch.tch.
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 03:32 PM
Morning Star
Most conservatives are not really investigating this story anyway. There are so many things he and the dem's are doing right now that are destroying the country as we know and requires greater attention than this.
The difference between a liberal and a conservative is that we can disagree with points of view among ourselves. The libs can not think for themselves and have no ability to disagree with a point of view ever! Conservatives think for themselves and then make their own conclusion. I do not discount a person because they say one thing I may not agree with.
In regards to this certificate deal, I don't know. It's sounds like everyone is discussing the wrong thing! It's not really about the birth cert. but the fact that his father was a Kenyan and the mother unable to transfer citizenship. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdBVN7azPs8
Among its many, many shortcomings, this site enjoys truncating URLs without saying anything, thereby rendering them completely useless. Use tinyurl.com to shorten them. Here is yur link: http://tinyurl.com/mglhl4
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 02:55 PM
FUBAR
When he caused the "Gates" controversy he goes on TV immediately (again) to set it right. Why won't he do the same for this? Why the silence? Just show everybody the LONG FORM birth certificate (with all the birthing details) and get it over with. People don't understand why he won't do this and it just fuels the fires more!
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 01:30 PM
JamesW62
why has he spend almost one million to stop the lawsuits?
Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 12:56 AM
Lourdes (I'm not PC)
Ann Coulter is always right.
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 01:05 PM
Naybob
First time I've ever agreed with Coulter on anything.
I guess Fox News will now start putting a (D) after name, right? That's the ultimate fate for all party traitors.
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Disgruntled Republican
Ann Coulter is now a Democrat
Ann Coulter is now a Democrat
Ann Coulter is now a Democrat
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 12:55 PM
Proudnow
For ANGELUL.....................Although he is Christian...do you have some problem with those of Muslim faith? There are many Muslim Americans. Do you really think christians are the only people that can be American? Perhaps you'd consider releasing your IQ scores and Psycho-Social evaluations. I'm sure they'd be quite enlightening and would explain your statement
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Rick from Texas
Don't think he is a Christian, first of all and yes I would have problem if he was Muslim. The want all people to be Muslims, it is a teaching of the Koran.
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 04:43 PM
FUBAR
Why hasn't somebody (doctor/nurse) that was there at the hospital when he was born come forward? All original birth certificates list the name of the doctor plus all kinds of details that his does not show. THAT is what everyone wants to see.
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Craig
If you are telling me that as a doctor you remember every single name of every child you delivered from 30-40 years ago I will give you a cookie.
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 03:29 PM
chrisd
The Hawaiian form that you get when you ask for a copy of your birth certificate does not have that information. If you were Hawaiian, and you lost your BC, and you asked for a copy, you'd get exactly the same form that's online. No doctor. Means zero. It's still a legal, valid birth certificate.
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 06:34 PM
Rick from Texas
The BC carries the name of the hospital, the doctor, the time, the date, the footprints, the parents and all of that important information. It is not a short form, it is a long form.
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 04:44 PM
FUBAR
The name of the doctor is on your birth certificate...DUH. But of course no one knows who that is do they???
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 03:37 PM
GeigerJJr
EXACTLY
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Wag the Dog
The labels "tea baggers, "birthers" what else will you be called? maybe, just maybe real Americans?
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Craig
as apposed to "fake" Americans? please conservatives do not have a monopoly on what is and is not American, besides if we go with majority rules Democrats are the "Real" americans
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 03:30 PM
Rick from Texas
Real Americans do not talk down their country, instead they are proud of it. Real Americans try to do what is right, not to please their own little group.
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 04:46 PM
Disgruntled Republican
Birthgate!
Birthgate!
Birthgate!
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 12:22 PM
wallyo
The birth certificate that was posted is a reprint. What's worse than the modern lazer font, the birth certificate says "Rev 11/01" at the bottom which is evidence that the certificate wasn't printed until after the November 2001 revision was in use.
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 11:42 AM
dk
So what? It's an official birth certificate, issued by the government, signed and sealed. It's what you get when you ask for a copy of your birth certificate. No one said it's the original.
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 12:00 PM
OHIONOBAMA
Do we really know who his parents are? Ann, you are a flake.
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Morning Star
I don't know. It's sounds like everyone is discussing the wrong thing! It's not really about the birth cert. but the fact that his father was a Kenyan and the mother unable to transfer citizenship. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdBVN7azPs8
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 10:57 AM
real American
barry soetoro(aka B.O. potus) went to school in Indonesia, only Indonesian citizens(no dual citizenship) may go to school there. weekly checks at the schools by the gov't were to check to make sure only Indonesian citizens were in schools. Also BO's stepsister ,Maya Soetoro ,has a COLB from HI and is not a US citizen and was born in Indonesia
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Craig
He gained US citizenship the day he was born in Hawaii, as evidence by his COLB the newspaper articles in the hawaiian papers and the Governor of Hawaiis testimony of the authenticity of his actual Birth Certificate.
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 03:34 PM
real American
the COLB is not the point! when Lolo Soetoro adopted barry in Indonesia ALL other citizenship was forfiet ,including any US or Kenyan, this was and is Indonesian law and is in accordance with the HAGUE convention of 1930 which the US is part of and in agreement with
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 10:29 AM
killer
O'Reilly shot it down too. Now both he and Mr. Coulter are Dems, right?
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 09:38 AM
Disgruntled Republican
Ann Coulter is now a Democrat
Ann Coulter is now a Democrat
Ann Coulter is now a Democrat
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Jawja Phydeaux
No. You are trying to paint with a broad brush, which doesn't work.
Steve and Maria in Colorado springs
The only reason this came up is because his grandmother, who has never left Kenya, said she was there when he was born. I think he should show an actual birth certificate instead of a certificate of live birth to shut all this up one way or another.
MurrayAbraham
The state of Hawaii delivers Certifications of Live Birth, no Birth Certificates. It's like paper money, it's not written on it but its still money :o)
Recon
Ann agree, it's a dead end swan song until the big dogs dig their heels.
Americans are beyond TOLERANCE of your grandiose Plan to Dismantle the Constitution & Country!
What a shallow TREASONOUS canard.
It is time to burn the “political play book” and go with something innovative.
Lazerray
Watch it Ann, your book sales may drop. Your wrong on this one.
joeyblueyes
IN THE WITCH DOCTORS TENT
rcaamo
Both Ann Coulter and Bill O'Reilly shot it down in less than 2 minutes with ridicule and distain . Well even Mike Hukabee noted that the Clintons would have found it out during the race. The FBI, the CIA, it all seems so futile. Yet, I have to say my mind is not satisfied and may never be. I smell smoke. There is just too much smoke to say there is no fire.
JamesW62
yeah didnt OReilly claim that he saw the cerfiticate or something like that a couple of days ago
chrisd
There's no fire. Just a few people with a smoke machine.
National Guard Mom
Also Ann you can't find an article in any of of archives of any Hawaiian Newspaper showing the actual birth announcement . That should tell you
chrisd
What? The birth announcement appeared in both the major local newspapers.
dk
"Anyone can make an announcement" No. One of the Hawaiian newspapers has stated that it has always gotten its announcements from the health department, not from the public.
joeyblueyes
WHO WOOD WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT BIRTH
profcje
So what is your point? Anyone can make an announcement.
profcje
I was actually BIRTHED in Hawaii as Obummer purports. Guess what? I have a Certificate of LIVE Birth from Tripler Army Hospital AND a BIRTH CERTIFICATE from the Territory of Hawaii. Why can Obummer only come up with a Certificate of Birth?
dk
Well, my birth certificate was destroyed in a fire over 50 years ago. My wife doesn't have her original either. Did it ever occur to you that it could have been destroyed or lost?
profcje
is that tongue-in-cheek? I was born in '52, I can get either upon request. Meaning no disrespect, did your wife even consider requesting one? With this much controversy, why hasn't the Kenyan?
TX_Family
Does anybody honestly believe that if there was anything to be found that the Clinton's couldn't and wouldn't have unearthed it to secure the election? Come on stop letting the Dems use this as a whipping post to promote Republican bias!
Barbarella
Listen to the whole tape!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe2bpV1QlkE&feature=related
Anyo
I like Ann Coulter, but feel she is wrong on this issue.
splavistic
Geez. Who are you perverted 'Conservatives' going to self stimulate over, now? tch.tch.
Morning Star
Most conservatives are not really investigating this story anyway. There are so many things he and the dem's are doing right now that are destroying the country as we know and requires greater attention than this.
The difference between a liberal and a conservative is that we can disagree with points of view among ourselves. The libs can not think for themselves and have no ability to disagree with a point of view ever! Conservatives think for themselves and then make their own conclusion. I do not discount a person because they say one thing I may not agree with.
In regards to this certificate deal, I don't know. It's sounds like everyone is discussing the wrong thing! It's not really about the birth cert. but the fact that his father was a Kenyan and the mother unable to transfer citizenship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdBVN7azPs8
BTiller
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-07-27/5-birther-myth...
the end!
chrisd
Among its many, many shortcomings, this site enjoys truncating URLs without saying anything, thereby rendering them completely useless. Use tinyurl.com to shorten them. Here is yur link: http://tinyurl.com/mglhl4
FUBAR
When he caused the "Gates" controversy he goes on TV immediately (again) to set it right. Why won't he do the same for this? Why the silence? Just show everybody the LONG FORM birth certificate (with all the birthing details) and get it over with. People don't understand why he won't do this and it just fuels the fires more!
JamesW62
why has he spend almost one million to stop the lawsuits?
Lourdes (I'm not PC)
Ann Coulter is always right.
Naybob
First time I've ever agreed with Coulter on anything.
I guess Fox News will now start putting a (D) after name, right? That's the ultimate fate for all party traitors.
Disgruntled Republican
Ann Coulter is now a Democrat
Ann Coulter is now a Democrat
Ann Coulter is now a Democrat
Proudnow
For ANGELUL.....................Although he is Christian...do you have some problem with those of Muslim faith? There are many Muslim Americans. Do you really think christians are the only people that can be American? Perhaps you'd consider releasing your IQ scores and Psycho-Social evaluations. I'm sure they'd be quite enlightening and would explain your statement
Rick from Texas
Don't think he is a Christian, first of all and yes I would have problem if he was Muslim. The want all people to be Muslims, it is a teaching of the Koran.
FUBAR
Why hasn't somebody (doctor/nurse) that was there at the hospital when he was born come forward? All original birth certificates list the name of the doctor plus all kinds of details that his does not show. THAT is what everyone wants to see.
Craig
If you are telling me that as a doctor you remember every single name of every child you delivered from 30-40 years ago I will give you a cookie.
chrisd
The Hawaiian form that you get when you ask for a copy of your birth certificate does not have that information. If you were Hawaiian, and you lost your BC, and you asked for a copy, you'd get exactly the same form that's online. No doctor. Means zero. It's still a legal, valid birth certificate.
Rick from Texas
The BC carries the name of the hospital, the doctor, the time, the date, the footprints, the parents and all of that important information. It is not a short form, it is a long form.
FUBAR
The name of the doctor is on your birth certificate...DUH. But of course no one knows who that is do they???
GeigerJJr
EXACTLY
Wag the Dog
The labels "tea baggers, "birthers" what else will you be called? maybe, just maybe real Americans?
Craig
as apposed to "fake" Americans? please conservatives do not have a monopoly on what is and is not American, besides if we go with majority rules Democrats are the "Real" americans
Rick from Texas
Real Americans do not talk down their country, instead they are proud of it. Real Americans try to do what is right, not to please their own little group.
Disgruntled Republican
Birthgate!
Birthgate!
Birthgate!
wallyo
The birth certificate that was posted is a reprint. What's worse than the modern lazer font, the birth certificate says "Rev 11/01" at the bottom which is evidence that the certificate wasn't printed until after the November 2001 revision was in use.
dk
So what? It's an official birth certificate, issued by the government, signed and sealed. It's what you get when you ask for a copy of your birth certificate. No one said it's the original.
OHIONOBAMA
Do we really know who his parents are? Ann, you are a flake.
Morning Star
I don't know. It's sounds like everyone is discussing the wrong thing! It's not really about the birth cert. but the fact that his father was a Kenyan and the mother unable to transfer citizenship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdBVN7azPs8
real American
barry soetoro(aka B.O. potus) went to school in Indonesia, only Indonesian citizens(no dual citizenship) may go to school there. weekly checks at the schools by the gov't were to check to make sure only Indonesian citizens were in schools. Also BO's stepsister ,Maya Soetoro ,has a COLB from HI and is not a US citizen and was born in Indonesia
Craig
He gained US citizenship the day he was born in Hawaii, as evidence by his COLB the newspaper articles in the hawaiian papers and the Governor of Hawaiis testimony of the authenticity of his actual Birth Certificate.
real American
the COLB is not the point! when Lolo Soetoro adopted barry in Indonesia ALL other citizenship was forfiet ,including any US or Kenyan, this was and is Indonesian law and is in accordance with the HAGUE convention of 1930 which the US is part of and in agreement with
killer
O'Reilly shot it down too. Now both he and Mr. Coulter are Dems, right?
Disgruntled Republican
Ann Coulter is now a Democrat
Ann Coulter is now a Democrat
Ann Coulter is now a Democrat
Jawja Phydeaux
No. You are trying to paint with a broad brush, which doesn't work.