Congressman: Obamacare Will 'Shred Constitution'
(CNSNews.com) – Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.) told CNSNews.com that the health care bill pushed by the Democratic House leadership will “shred the Constitution” and that Democrats have not given Republicans “any time to showcase” their ideas on health care reform.
When CNSNews.com asked, “Are you satisfied with what the GOP has proposed thus far to counter the Democrats’ plan on health care?” Hoekstra said, “Well, I mean there’s always arguments that could be made: ‘You’ve got to be out there with a more powerful message’ and those types of things, but you know, we’re out there with a message.” Read more ...
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Sen. Ben Nelson: ‘I’m Not Going to Be Able to Answer That Question’ of Where Constitution Authorizes Congress to Force Americans to Buy Health Insurance
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http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/57007
Ken123
At what point do we challenge the Constitutionality of this proposed legislation? This administration must be STOPPED.
steve.c.
If you have doubts this may change your mind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28
Authentic Conservative
by Andrew Napolitano
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We Can't Sit Back and Allow the Loss of Our Freedoms
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We elect the government. It works for us. As we watch the Democrats' plans for health care take shape, we can only ask how did our government get so removed, so unbridled, so arrogant that it can tell us how to live our personal lives?
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Last Saturday, at 11 o’clock in the evening, the House of Representatives voted by a five vote margin to have the federal government manage the health care of every American at a cost of $1 trillion dollars over the next ten years.
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For the first time in American history, if this bill becomes law, the Feds will force you to buy insurance you might not want, or may not need, or cannot afford. If you don’t purchase what the government tells you to buy, if you don’t do so when they tell you to do it, and if you don’t buy just what they say is right for you, the government may fine you, prosecute you, and even put you in jail. Freedom of choice and control over your own body will be lost. The privacy of your communications and medical decision making with your physician will be gone. More of your hard earned dollars will be at the disposal of federal bureaucrats.
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It was not supposed to be this way. We elect the government. It works for us. How did it get so removed, so unbridled, so arrogant that it can tell us how to live our personal lives? Evil rarely comes upon us all at once, and liberty is rarely lost in one stroke. It happens gradually, over the years and decades and even centuries. A little stretch here, a cave in there, powers are slowly taken from the states and the people and before you know it, we have one big monster government that recognizes no restraint on its ability to tell us how to live. It claims the power to regulate any activity, tax any behavior, and demand conformity to any standard it chooses.
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The Founders did not give us a government like the one we have today. The government they gave us was strictly limited in its scope, guaranteed individual liberty, preserved the free market, and on matters that pertain to our private behavior was supposed to leave us alone.
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In the Constitution, the Founders built in checks and balances. If the Congress got out of hand, the states would restrain it. If the states stole liberty or property, the Congress would cure it. If the President tried to become a king, the courts would prevent it.
WeThePeople
"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions." (James Madison, Letter to Edmund Pendleton, January 21, 1792 Madison 1865, I, page 546)
WeThePeople
Where in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution does Congress have the delegated power to force us to buy anything, with the threat of fines and imprisonment? They don't! Come on Republicans! It's not about "our ideas vs their ideas"! Shout if from the housetops! It's unconstitutional!
jmm
I don't know if if I want any of these guys on Capital Hill as my lawyer. They can argue all they want on the hill, but until a health Coverage MANDATE is passed there is nothing to be unconstiutional. I am going to contact my Sen and Rep Offices and ask who will be going to Federal court to put a stay on any action that MANADATES health coverage. What we need to do NOW is get prepared IN CASE they manage to pass MANDATED Health Coverage.
Jan in VA
Defend the Constitution!
Xlorrax
Congress knows it over steped it bounds it could care less alot of what they have done violates the constitution and they are well aware if obama gets his way it will be no more there is no place for it in his socialist world
Vod Kanockers
A lot of you here don't realize that when you signed the paper to get your SS# that you were signing a contract with the US Govt. to become properety of them, not a private citizen anymore.
Do some studying an you'll see that I am right....
AfghanVet
Section. 8. of the Constitution
"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;"
Read the rest of the constitution, nowhere in the Constitution does it say the government must provide healthcare to the people of this country. They've overstepped there bounds.
John S.
So now they care about the Constitution?
A. Capone
Friends-I really wanted to talk to you more but can't seem to reply or post. Come back later- got to go to work- later!
TheBottomLine(_|_)
GRuss - Agree with ou 110% except I would suggest that the politicians no longer think of themselves as such. Rather, the believe they are little Kings and Queens and we are their loyal subjects. Time to bring the house down and rebuild with Patriots who truly mean it when they pledge to protect and defend the constitution.
Jan in VA
That's for damn sure!
TheBottomLine(_|_)
@A. Capone...Al (if that is who you dream of being), check this out:
http://www.examiner.com/x-28747-Chesapeake-Legal-News-Examiner~y2009m11d...
GRuss
It is painfully clear that few, if any, politicians even know what the Constitution means much less care about it. It is time to Clean house and remove Politicians that think we are their subjects and replace them with in Politicians that are our public servants,
steve.c.
From the Blaylock Wellness Report;
Dear friend,
If you think we've got problems with our healthcare system now, just wait until you see what your government has in store for you . . .
President Obama is pushing nationalized health insurance via the so-called public option, which is the first step toward socialized medicine.
All Republicans and at least a few Senate Democrats will vote against this now. But the compromise legislation will almost certainly include a "trigger" to adopt the public option in just a few years!
This is a sneaky backdoor way into socialized medicine.
This "trigger" will force the establishment of a government-run plan after the insurance companies fail to meet impossibly high standards for expanded coverage and reduced costs.
And that opens the door for the government takeover!
The loons behind this scheme actually believe a government takeover of healthcare will lower costs, even as it improves quality and expands coverage to all!
Of course that's impossible, and Medicare should be the obvious proof of that!
conservabit
The healthcare bill will put an end to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness; therefore, it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!
A. Capone
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A. Capone
@Authentic Conservative-
Please show me the article in the Constitution that speaks to government run health care. I've been looking.
Authentic Conservative
It's not in the Constitution, the Federal Government is doing a take over of your freedom through health care, permanent high taxes to pay for it, permanent high unemployment above 10%. Dictating what you can eat, what the doctors get paid, on and on and on. We need to unite as Americans and quit fighting each other.
Drama-mama
Obama has already shred our Constitution sir. IF we don't get him out of office and cripple his authority, he will destroy this country completely.
Authentic Conservative
With one fell swoop the house of representatives took aim at individual freedom and instituted a government take over of almost every aspect of American life. The public health care system, if the senate passes a similar bill, will become the world's largest employer, and tax rates will go through the roof, on every American. An entitlement society will take place, and unemployment will be permanently above 10%. The only hope we have is a massive shift in power in 2010, with the majority being lost by the democrats in both house...
A. Capone
I still don't see how a government run health plan is unconstitutional.
Help me out please.
Authentic Conservative
With one fell swoop the house of representatives took aim at individual freedom and instituted a government take over of almost every aspect of American life. The public health care system, if the senate passes a similar bill, will become the world's largest employer, and tax rates will go through the roof, on every American. An entitlement society will take place, and unemployment will be permanently above 10%. The only hope we have is a massive shift in power in 2010, with the majority being lost by the democrats in both house...
A. Capone
well, Ive tried to reply- can't post- probably get this posted..
Authentic Conservative
Dems Rejected 11 Amendments Requiring Congress to Enroll in Gov’t-Run Health Plan
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http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/56897
sgoe02
@ A. Capone ... please explain where the Founders detailed a government run health care ... or a "right" to health care?
sobemike
Obama runs the risk of becoming another Jimmy Carter. If you remember in '76, the Democrats had a majority in Congress and the presidency. Carter tried to accommodate not only the remnants of the GOP; but also fellow Democrats that opposed him. The result was that Carter was seen for the weak and ineffectual president that he was. Obama must grab the bull by the horns, publicly state that he can govern without a single GOP vote in Congress, meet with the Democratic opposition privately and let them know just how difficult he can make things for them if they don't tow the party line. It's one thing to get elected. It's another perform the job well. At least Obama was elected and did not obtain office by voter fraud. I can't believe the news stories about "Town Meetings" and these trailer trash Americans cheering for the insurance companies against there own best interests. If they're for real, then the best thing I ever did in my life was immigrate to the UK!
FAILURE-IN-CHIEF
The 111th Congress is a perfect illustration of how much damage a bunch of self-interested fatuous frauds with power can do.
shawn boles
We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.
KC Mob Member
If you don't believe Obamao is shreadding your constitution, think again. First you need to see WHO is really running this country into the U.S.S.A. You'll rethink your stance on Obamao:
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=977
FAILURE-IN-CHIEF
Congress attempting to run the nation's health-care system is analogous to a bunch of drunks attempting to run the Star Ship Enterprise.
A. Capone
Does any one disagree that "all American citizens should have health coverage?"
The only way to ensure this if you believe it is to enforce this rule. Some of us are too stupid to realize that they need a health plan.
I don't see how the "Constitution is being shredded" over this.
Please explain how our founding fathers detailed Health Insurance in the Constitution.
Jim in JAX
I absolutely disagree that any American is entitled to government provided health insurance. Perhaps if you actually READ the Constitution it would help. Start with Article 1, Sections 8 and 9. Congress is not empowered to create a government health insurance company.
cooperscopy
He's right about this shredding the constitution. If it is passed with all these mandates the courts will be full for years as constitutional scholars will put the test to the courts. It's a dangerous time for our country when congress is working to take away our rights and freedoms....
http://cooperscopy.blogspot.com/
FAILURE-IN-CHIEF
If another country tried to do to America what the current Congress is doing, we would declare war on them.
sobemike
All other industrialised countries including my own, the UK, have national healthcare system. Our NHS is excellent!
A. Capone
Ask him how many people in Michigan have health insurance right now.
Last I heard Michigan is devastated by unemployment. How much does cobra cost for these laid- off workers? Does he care about them?
Fraggin
To Pelosi, Reid, and their ilk, the Constitution is just a temporary restriction, a mere bump in the road.
Soon to be forgotten and replaced by something they wrote, that can be changed as needed.
A. Capone
He also thought there were WMD's in Iraq.
On November 3, 2006, The New York Times reported that a website created at the request of Hoekstra and Senator Pat Roberts was found to contain detailed information that could be helpful to anyone seeking to produce nuclear weapons.
What is this guy on?
Stay in Michigan Pete.
oldguy
B. CLINTON SAID THERE WERE WMDS H.CLINTON SAID THERE WERE WMDS J. KERRY SAID THERE WERE WMDS A. GORE SAID THERE WERE WMDS CIA DIRECTOR SAID THERE WERE WMDS BUT BUSH LIED??