Mr Obama, You must be aware of the Tuskegee experiment in syphlisis. There are 20 other cases similar listed on a web site and you want us to trust our government. With this history you call Palin a liar when she sites your group that is going to determine the treatment. On medicare now my doctor now cannot get reimbursment for the treatment he recommends, nitrogen removal of three spots on my chest, two black the size of a dime. Only those with the geld will be able to get unfettered treatment.. I think you appology would be more appropiate than Mr. Wilsons. His was not premeditated yours was.
Monday, September 14, 2009 at 03:28 PM
CONSERVATIVE=LEMMING
You have absolutely no proof for what you say about Obama. If you don't like medicare, refuse it and go to private insurance.
Monday, September 14, 2009 at 10:13 PM
Dixie Conservative
irkulyen you disgusting puke. you would not know the truth if it bit you in the ass. (1) ridicule, (2) humiliate (3) shun. How's that for radicalism 101? Do I have it RIGHT or have I LEFT out something?
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 07:50 PM
irkulyen
Of course Palin is a liar, and that's the truth! So is faux news! Sorry Glen and Shawn, this is a horse that won't run. Palin is utter and complete trash.
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 05:58 PM
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Hey, I love you guys so much that in recognition of Oktoberfest, I’m inviting all of you over for a beer summit! Of course with the downtrodden economy and all, the best I can offer you is the beer in the green bottles with the red star on the bottle cap. And you know what else? I love you guys so much; I am going to knit each of you a pair of mittens for Christmas!!
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Friday, September 11, 2009 at 08:15 PM
CONSERVATIVE=LEMMING
I don't really care much for you. I don't return your affection in any way. You smell of corruption, much like Shatan (Bush).
Monday, September 14, 2009 at 10:14 PM
Tin Drum
She is riding this wave and intends to become rich. Plain and simple. She can never seriously run for office but she is the darling of the right wingers and is going to milk them for all she can.
Tally Whacker
Palin is more idiot than liar. But she is a liar. And an idiot.
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You are confusing Palin with Piglost,Reid,Murtha,Rengel,Dodd Obama and the rest of the morons in DC..
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 04:55 PM
USCitizen-Voter
Only those that lie while they oppose health care.
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Not all that oppose, just those that lie while they oppose.
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"Unsurprisingly, the phrase "death panel" does not appear in the health care bill that passed House committees last month. And Palin’s post did not make entirely clear what she might interpret as a "death panel." Nonetheless, the phrase stuck." http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/palin-vs-obama-death-panels/
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"Obama was correct when he said his plan wouldn’t insure illegal immigrants; the House bill expressly forbids giving subsidies to those who are in the country illegally. Conservative critics complain that the bill lacks an enforcement mechanism, but that hardly makes the president a liar." http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/obamas-health-care-speech/
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The claim that Obama and Congress are cutting seniors’ "Medicare benefits to pay for the health care overhaul is outright false, though that doesn’t keep it from being repeated ad infinitum." http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/seven-falsehoods-about-health-care/
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Facts don't matter with propaganda.
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 05:37 PM
Tess55
The hypocrisy of this Administration... Nancy Pelosi got all holier than thou during the speech because someone called out you lie, when she called the CIA liars for protecting this country in a time of terror.. This back and forth is all a smoke screen. This country is in deep trouble and we have our politicians calling names pointing fingers and ignoring the complete destruction of our country... If this isn't a sure reason to have term limits on all politicians I don't know what is. We have men and women fighting and dying and all Washington can do is act like children. Hell I think some children could run this country better. Stop It already... This is our country. Not just theirs. It is an American thing, not a politicians only. I am so fed up, Obama is on TV daily and nothing is getting done.. Brow beating, name calling insulting and acting immature. Enough!!! Especially on such a somber day.
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 04:52 PM
AlanB
You really don't understand the difference between Wilson shouting at the President of the United States while he is speaking in the halls of Congress and Pelosi saying that the CIA provided false information in a briefing? Really?
Obama called Palin liar without saying her name. Wilson called out you lie. Wilson didn't say Obama name. As far as I can see it he called all of them a liar. So what is the difference. Oh Wilson is a conservative thats right. My bad.
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 04:33 PM
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Friday, September 11, 2009 at 04:28 PM
Out of the Blue(Oath Keeper)
@Tally Whacker
Palin is more idiot than liar. But she is a liar. And an idiot.
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Please for your own safety don't think for yourself, you could end up facing a death panel. Does it hurt when you try to think? It looks like it does.
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 04:25 PM
KIRK
I AM GUESSING YOU ARE A LIBERAL. I CAME TO THIS CONCLUSION BECAUSE LIBERALS ONLY KNOW HOW TO NAME CALL AND NOT RESEARCH OR EVEN KNOW HOW TO DELIVER FACTS
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 04:30 PM
Constitution Rocks
To USCitizen-voter.....When you say that you are going to cut expenses and provide health care for more people it can only mean that there will be rationing. That means that the most expensive costs will be cut which means that the very young and the very old will be the first to be rationed. A government bureaucracy will make decisions about your health care or lack there of. Hence the term "death panels". If you are an intelligent individual I'm surprised that you quote factcheck.org. It is the most liberal biased source of information around. I do agree with your statement about propaganda. This administration uses it on a daily basis and it's obvious that facts, when arguing with liberals, are never part of the discussion. I find that name calling and insults and "talking points" are all the argument liberals have.
Q: Does Ezekiel Emanuel advocate sacrificing medical care for senior citizens and disabled youths for the good of society?
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A: No. Critics of health care legislation are distorting the meaning of Emanuel’s academic writings on medical ethics. And Emanuel tells us, "I am not advocating this." http://tinyurl.com/kkxhf3
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 06:02 PM
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Friday, September 11, 2009 at 04:18 PM
Tally Whacker
Palin is more idiot than liar. But she is a liar. And an idiot.
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 04:13 PM
GeorgiaDawg
And you tell everyone,I am a adult.... Could have fooled me...
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 04:44 PM
Authentic Conservative
You seem to be confusing Palin with Joe Biden...the guy who's been eating at a diner that's been closed for over a decade. The guy who admitted him and his boss "misread" the economy. And he's on film applauding the signing of the "stimulus" bill that was meant to address the economy he and his boss misread. ...you're confused it appears.
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 04:42 PM
At Death's door..Obamacare
Suppose we have to take your word for it, huh, moron.
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 04:15 PM
martin j smith
I almost forgot: Obama is really good at calling his opponents names( liar is one )so when someone calls him a liar? What is the big deal ? Really the hypocrisy is overwhelming . Lets also not forget Pelosi calling Town Hallers Nazis ( carrying Swastikuz )
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 04:09 PM
businessowner
Stop with the games/everyone knows that the words "death panels" are not used in the bill. But when you set up a panel of people to make the decision on weather or not you recieve the care you need in order to survive; then you can call it anything you want/but someone else is making the decision for you. And care will have to be rationed! And illegals will get healthcare/because the bill does not state that you will have to show proof of citizienship in order to receive care!!! This is a dishonest statement from the President and he knows it. There always seems to be a backdoor for this administration/ and I will start listening when they start stating facts.
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 04:06 PM
At Death's door..Obamacare
Death Panel Palin
State for healthcare reform
Poll shows 51% of adults back Obama, Congress
By Timm Herdt (Contact)
Friday, September 11, 2009
The poll, released Thursday night by the Public Policy Institute of California, shows 51 percent of California adults support “changes to the healthcare system being developed by Congress and the Obama administration,” while 38 percent oppose them.
Support was significantly stronger for what has become the most controversial element of the plan, the inclusion of a public option that would allow consumers to choose a government-run insurance plan over those offered by private insurers.
On that issue, 62 percent of Californians are in favor and 33 percent oppose it.
Bloody do I sense a bit of desperation and frustation in your comments or are you just horny thinking of my big Irish prick
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BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Wait *intense laughter* a minute *laugh - cough*, *regaining composure*, you are kidding, right? You name some obscure poll from California, which is bankrupt and full of radical leftists, to prove your point?!?!?!? Just how desperate are you, anyway? You are going to have to do far, far, far, far better then that, if you want me to take you anywhere close to serious*more intense laughter*
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 04:06 PM
businessowner
California does not represent America! The majority of Americans oppose the health care bill, and we do not want our Nation to end up like California. But that is the direction we are heading. Everyone needs to carry their own weight in the nation. There are people that truly need help and we are a nation of giving. But there is a limit/ and we have reached that limit. There is so much abuse and fraud in our govt. run programs, that were established to help those that truly needed help, because people abuse the system so they don't have to work!! California went broke trying to help everyone. At some point people have to learn to help themselves!!
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 04:18 PM
The Decider
Palin & Chickenhawk Cheney 2012!
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 04:04 PM
The Decider
Palin says "In honor of the American soldier, I said thanks for the bridge to nowhere".
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 04:03 PM
Judy Kay
All Americans who opposed BO's Government-run healthcare were called liars in BO's speech. We're supposed to respect him; however, I think he, like Congress, also owes respect for us. Both he and Congress, as elected officials, are the taxpayers' public servants. So long as he continues to try to suppress our free speech and trample on our other constitutional freedoms, he will never gain my trust. By the way, he lied in his speech when he said the healthcare would not hurt seniors, but, folks, the truth is he wants to take $500 billion out of seniors' Medicare to pay for his healthcare plan and also does not want seniors to be able to buy Medicare Advantage plans.
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 03:56 PM
USCitizen-Voter
Only those that lie while they oppose health care.
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Not all that oppose, just those that lie while they oppose.
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"Unsurprisingly, the phrase "death panel" does not appear in the health care bill that passed House committees last month. And Palin’s post did not make entirely clear what she might interpret as a "death panel." Nonetheless, the phrase stuck." http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/palin-vs-obama-death-panels/
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"Obama was correct when he said his plan wouldn’t insure illegal immigrants; the House bill expressly forbids giving subsidies to those who are in the country illegally. Conservative critics complain that the bill lacks an enforcement mechanism, but that hardly makes the president a liar." http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/obamas-health-care-speech/
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The claim that Obama and Congress are cutting seniors’ "Medicare benefits to pay for the health care overhaul is outright false, though that doesn’t keep it from being repeated ad infinitum." http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/seven-falsehoods-about-health-care/
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Facts don't matter with propaganda.
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 04:01 PM
At Death's door..Obamacare
Apparently, you haven't read both bills (one in the house and one in the senate). Granted, they don't use the term "death panel", but a criminal doesn't carry a neon sign to advertise his intentions, either. As for illegals, that's a moot point considering a bill for amnesty, and as for Medicare, the provision in both bills removes medicare for the public lifetime option. These are in the bill, regardless of what factcheck purposes (which is not unusual, since the majority of attorneys and judges don't understand either bill as currently written).
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 04:11 PM
tobity
obama is a piece of #$%$
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 03:56 PM
Judy Kay
All Americans who opposed BO's Government-run healthcare were called liars in BO's speech. We're supposed to respect him; however, I think he, like Congress, also owes respect for us. Both he and Congress, as elected officials, are the taxpayers' public servants. So long as he continues to try to suppress our free speech and trample on our other constitutional freedoms, he will never gain my trust. By the way, he lied in his speech when he said the healthcare would not hurt seniors, but, folks, the truth is he wants to take $500 billion out of seniors' Medicare to pay for his healthcare plan and also does not want seniors to be able to buy Medicare Advantage plans.
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 03:54 PM
martin j smith
My gosh if we could get a buck for everyone in washington who calls someone of influence a liar we wo9uld have no problem with the national debt. So in this specific case I would say to democrats: grow up you behaved and continue to call your opposition all kinds of names and to Republicans I say: stop being cowards and get some backbone already. Your effort to look goody goody makes you look foolish and you will get no political dividends anyway. Right now most people want to know what kind of health care bill will be passed and how it will affect them. This other crap is a distraction.
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 03:50 PM
The Decider
Halo wrote
MLK was a card carrying CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN.
JFK HAD NO INTENTION OF GOING TO AL AND GET HIM OUT OF JAIL.
NIXON WAS FRIENDS WITH BOTH BOBBY AND JACK. BOBBY AND NIXON WENT TOGETHER TO GET MLK OUT OF JAIL.
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You can't be this dumb, so I'll assume you're just making stuff up!
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 03:49 PM
TxGold
Yes, Rzmann, you did. Truth hurts, huh? Joe Wilson tells it like it is!
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 03:49 PM
Rzmann
Hey man......I'm with you. Just trying to be factious
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 04:02 PM
USCitizen-Voter
"Unsurprisingly, the phrase "death panel" does not appear in the health care bill that passed House committees last month. And Palin’s post did not make entirely clear what she might interpret as a "death panel." Nonetheless, the phrase stuck." http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/palin-vs-obama-death-panels/
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"Obama was correct when he said his plan wouldn’t insure illegal immigrants; the House bill expressly forbids giving subsidies to those who are in the country illegally. Conservative critics complain that the bill lacks an enforcement mechanism, but that hardly makes the president a liar." http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/obamas-health-care-speech/
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Facts don't matter with propaganda.
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 03:51 PM
AlanB
"Everyone" knows that factcheck is a "bias website"? You're kidding, right? You apparently haven't actually read its coverage of Obama's speech. Or the pages with titles like "Obama's Social Security Whopper" and "Obama's False Medicare Claim". I guess you think it's "bias" because they failed to say that the speech was 100% lies while noting that he's the Antichrist.
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 06:29 PM
Rzmann
You are kidding right?? OMG...everyone know that factcheck.org is a bias website. Get real....
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 04:15 PM
USCitizen-Voter
Rzmann
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The please show with facts how he's doing this now.
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 04:03 PM
Rzmann
And if the President told you the sky was falling........you would believe that too..right
Fact: This president has contradicted himself numerious times.
Fact: This President has, for better words, SWITCHED views and statements numerious times.
Fact: This President talks with forked tongue
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 03:57 PM
The Decider
Yogi is definitely not smarter than the average bear
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 03:47 PM
Hey Trolls
Are You Trolls also on Acorn's payroll?
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 03:44 PM
AlanB
Who's paying you--FOX, Scaife, or the Republican Party? See how easy that is? And how ignorant?
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 06:31 PM
USCitizen-Voter
Are you on the RNC payroll? Or just fully indoctrinated?
Friday, September 11, 2009 at 03:51 PM
YogiBear
DPP is mentally challenged, it's a California (little mexico) thing. When the next big quake destroys SF, we should declare a national holiday and wonder why those idiots keep rebuilding it
Bell2ring
Mr Obama, You must be aware of the Tuskegee experiment in syphlisis. There are 20 other cases similar listed on a web site and you want us to trust our government. With this history you call Palin a liar when she sites your group that is going to determine the treatment. On medicare now my doctor now cannot get reimbursment for the treatment he recommends, nitrogen removal of three spots on my chest, two black the size of a dime. Only those with the geld will be able to get unfettered treatment.. I think you appology would be more appropiate than Mr. Wilsons. His was not premeditated yours was.
CONSERVATIVE=LEMMING
You have absolutely no proof for what you say about Obama. If you don't like medicare, refuse it and go to private insurance.
Dixie Conservative
irkulyen you disgusting puke. you would not know the truth if it bit you in the ass. (1) ridicule, (2) humiliate (3) shun. How's that for radicalism 101? Do I have it RIGHT or have I LEFT out something?
irkulyen
Of course Palin is a liar, and that's the truth! So is faux news! Sorry Glen and Shawn, this is a horse that won't run. Palin is utter and complete trash.
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I am in such a state of euphoria!! I just love all of you liberals here. I really do. You guys are like a second family to me. You are such a polite, nonjudgmental, civil and reasonable bunch. I’m sure that many of you are proud graduates of the Janeane Garofalo School of Civility, Etiquette and Personal Hygiene.
Hey, I love you guys so much that in recognition of Oktoberfest, I’m inviting all of you over for a beer summit! Of course with the downtrodden economy and all, the best I can offer you is the beer in the green bottles with the red star on the bottle cap. And you know what else? I love you guys so much; I am going to knit each of you a pair of mittens for Christmas!!
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CONSERVATIVE=LEMMING
I don't really care much for you. I don't return your affection in any way. You smell of corruption, much like Shatan (Bush).
Tin Drum
She is riding this wave and intends to become rich. Plain and simple. She can never seriously run for office but she is the darling of the right wingers and is going to milk them for all she can.
CONSERVATIVE=LEMMING
OMG!DEATHPANELS!!!!HEDIDN'TSHOWMEHISBIRTHCERTIFICATE!!HE'SGOINGTOGIVEPOORPEOPLEHEALTHCARE!!!!!OMG!!!HE'SGOINGTO INDOCTRINATEMYKIDS!!!WE'REGONNASECEDE!!!!!
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Tally Whacker
Palin is more idiot than liar. But she is a liar. And an idiot.
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You are confusing Palin with Piglost,Reid,Murtha,Rengel,Dodd Obama and the rest of the morons in DC..
USCitizen-Voter
Only those that lie while they oppose health care.
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Not all that oppose, just those that lie while they oppose.
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"Unsurprisingly, the phrase "death panel" does not appear in the health care bill that passed House committees last month. And Palin’s post did not make entirely clear what she might interpret as a "death panel." Nonetheless, the phrase stuck."
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/palin-vs-obama-death-panels/
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"Obama was correct when he said his plan wouldn’t insure illegal immigrants; the House bill expressly forbids giving subsidies to those who are in the country illegally. Conservative critics complain that the bill lacks an enforcement mechanism, but that hardly makes the president a liar."
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/obamas-health-care-speech/
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The claim that Obama and Congress are cutting seniors’ "Medicare benefits to pay for the health care overhaul is outright false, though that doesn’t keep it from being repeated ad infinitum."
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/seven-falsehoods-about-health-care/
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Facts don't matter with propaganda.
Tess55
The hypocrisy of this Administration... Nancy Pelosi got all holier than thou during the speech because someone called out you lie, when she called the CIA liars for protecting this country in a time of terror.. This back and forth is all a smoke screen. This country is in deep trouble and we have our politicians calling names pointing fingers and ignoring the complete destruction of our country... If this isn't a sure reason to have term limits on all politicians I don't know what is. We have men and women fighting and dying and all Washington can do is act like children. Hell I think some children could run this country better. Stop It already... This is our country. Not just theirs. It is an American thing, not a politicians only. I am so fed up, Obama is on TV daily and nothing is getting done.. Brow beating, name calling insulting and acting immature. Enough!!! Especially on such a somber day.
AlanB
You really don't understand the difference between Wilson shouting at the President of the United States while he is speaking in the halls of Congress and Pelosi saying that the CIA provided false information in a briefing? Really?
Authentic Conservative
Dragnet Remix: Jack Webb Schools Barack Obama on Healthcare
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0lJ1iblPIM
Pudge
Obama called Palin liar without saying her name. Wilson called out you lie. Wilson didn't say Obama name. As far as I can see it he called all of them a liar. So what is the difference. Oh Wilson is a conservative thats right. My bad.
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RANGEL/GEITHNER 2016 – “Read our lips….NO TAXES!!.... (For us that is.)”
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Out of the Blue(Oath Keeper)
@Tally Whacker
Palin is more idiot than liar. But she is a liar. And an idiot.
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Please for your own safety don't think for yourself, you could end up facing a death panel. Does it hurt when you try to think? It looks like it does.
KIRK
I AM GUESSING YOU ARE A LIBERAL. I CAME TO THIS CONCLUSION BECAUSE LIBERALS ONLY KNOW HOW TO NAME CALL AND NOT RESEARCH OR EVEN KNOW HOW TO DELIVER FACTS
Constitution Rocks
To USCitizen-voter.....When you say that you are going to cut expenses and provide health care for more people it can only mean that there will be rationing. That means that the most expensive costs will be cut which means that the very young and the very old will be the first to be rationed. A government bureaucracy will make decisions about your health care or lack there of. Hence the term "death panels". If you are an intelligent individual I'm surprised that you quote factcheck.org. It is the most liberal biased source of information around. I do agree with your statement about propaganda. This administration uses it on a daily basis and it's obvious that facts, when arguing with liberals, are never part of the discussion. I find that name calling and insults and "talking points" are all the argument liberals have.
USCitizen-Voter
If Fox news thinks Factcheck.org is a reliable source, so do I. You're allowed to dismiss it if you don't agree.
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"The nonpartisan Factcheck.org analyzed the bill and found no such possibility."
http://congress.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/06/15/senate-takes-another-crack-...
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http://tinyurl.com/lk34hh
USCitizen-Voter
Q: Does Ezekiel Emanuel advocate sacrificing medical care for senior citizens and disabled youths for the good of society?
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A: No. Critics of health care legislation are distorting the meaning of Emanuel’s academic writings on medical ethics. And Emanuel tells us, "I am not advocating this."
http://tinyurl.com/kkxhf3
The Punisher
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Tally Whacker
Palin is more idiot than liar. But she is a liar. And an idiot.
GeorgiaDawg
And you tell everyone,I am a adult.... Could have fooled me...
Authentic Conservative
You seem to be confusing Palin with Joe Biden...the guy who's been eating at a diner that's been closed for over a decade. The guy who admitted him and his boss "misread" the economy. And he's on film applauding the signing of the "stimulus" bill that was meant to address the economy he and his boss misread. ...you're confused it appears.
At Death's door..Obamacare
Suppose we have to take your word for it, huh, moron.
martin j smith
I almost forgot: Obama is really good at calling his opponents names( liar is one )so when someone calls him a liar? What is the big deal ? Really the hypocrisy is overwhelming . Lets also not forget Pelosi calling Town Hallers Nazis ( carrying Swastikuz )
businessowner
Stop with the games/everyone knows that the words "death panels" are not used in the bill. But when you set up a panel of people to make the decision on weather or not you recieve the care you need in order to survive; then you can call it anything you want/but someone else is making the decision for you. And care will have to be rationed! And illegals will get healthcare/because the bill does not state that you will have to show proof of citizienship in order to receive care!!! This is a dishonest statement from the President and he knows it. There always seems to be a backdoor for this administration/ and I will start listening when they start stating facts.
At Death's door..Obamacare
Death Panel Palin
State for healthcare reform
Poll shows 51% of adults back Obama, Congress
By Timm Herdt (Contact)
Friday, September 11, 2009
The poll, released Thursday night by the Public Policy Institute of California, shows 51 percent of California adults support “changes to the healthcare system being developed by Congress and the Obama administration,” while 38 percent oppose them.
Support was significantly stronger for what has become the most controversial element of the plan, the inclusion of a public option that would allow consumers to choose a government-run insurance plan over those offered by private insurers.
On that issue, 62 percent of Californians are in favor and 33 percent oppose it.
Bloody do I sense a bit of desperation and frustation in your comments or are you just horny thinking of my big Irish prick
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BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Wait *intense laughter* a minute *laugh - cough*, *regaining composure*, you are kidding, right? You name some obscure poll from California, which is bankrupt and full of radical leftists, to prove your point?!?!?!? Just how desperate are you, anyway? You are going to have to do far, far, far, far better then that, if you want me to take you anywhere close to serious*more intense laughter*
businessowner
California does not represent America! The majority of Americans oppose the health care bill, and we do not want our Nation to end up like California. But that is the direction we are heading. Everyone needs to carry their own weight in the nation. There are people that truly need help and we are a nation of giving. But there is a limit/ and we have reached that limit. There is so much abuse and fraud in our govt. run programs, that were established to help those that truly needed help, because people abuse the system so they don't have to work!! California went broke trying to help everyone. At some point people have to learn to help themselves!!
The Decider
Palin & Chickenhawk Cheney 2012!
The Decider
Palin says "In honor of the American soldier, I said thanks for the bridge to nowhere".
Judy Kay
All Americans who opposed BO's Government-run healthcare were called liars in BO's speech. We're supposed to respect him; however, I think he, like Congress, also owes respect for us. Both he and Congress, as elected officials, are the taxpayers' public servants. So long as he continues to try to suppress our free speech and trample on our other constitutional freedoms, he will never gain my trust. By the way, he lied in his speech when he said the healthcare would not hurt seniors, but, folks, the truth is he wants to take $500 billion out of seniors' Medicare to pay for his healthcare plan and also does not want seniors to be able to buy Medicare Advantage plans.
USCitizen-Voter
Only those that lie while they oppose health care.
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Not all that oppose, just those that lie while they oppose.
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"Unsurprisingly, the phrase "death panel" does not appear in the health care bill that passed House committees last month. And Palin’s post did not make entirely clear what she might interpret as a "death panel." Nonetheless, the phrase stuck."
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/palin-vs-obama-death-panels/
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"Obama was correct when he said his plan wouldn’t insure illegal immigrants; the House bill expressly forbids giving subsidies to those who are in the country illegally. Conservative critics complain that the bill lacks an enforcement mechanism, but that hardly makes the president a liar."
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/obamas-health-care-speech/
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The claim that Obama and Congress are cutting seniors’ "Medicare benefits to pay for the health care overhaul is outright false, though that doesn’t keep it from being repeated ad infinitum."
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/seven-falsehoods-about-health-care/
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Facts don't matter with propaganda.
At Death's door..Obamacare
Apparently, you haven't read both bills (one in the house and one in the senate). Granted, they don't use the term "death panel", but a criminal doesn't carry a neon sign to advertise his intentions, either. As for illegals, that's a moot point considering a bill for amnesty, and as for Medicare, the provision in both bills removes medicare for the public lifetime option. These are in the bill, regardless of what factcheck purposes (which is not unusual, since the majority of attorneys and judges don't understand either bill as currently written).
tobity
obama is a piece of #$%$
Judy Kay
All Americans who opposed BO's Government-run healthcare were called liars in BO's speech. We're supposed to respect him; however, I think he, like Congress, also owes respect for us. Both he and Congress, as elected officials, are the taxpayers' public servants. So long as he continues to try to suppress our free speech and trample on our other constitutional freedoms, he will never gain my trust. By the way, he lied in his speech when he said the healthcare would not hurt seniors, but, folks, the truth is he wants to take $500 billion out of seniors' Medicare to pay for his healthcare plan and also does not want seniors to be able to buy Medicare Advantage plans.
martin j smith
My gosh if we could get a buck for everyone in washington who calls someone of influence a liar we wo9uld have no problem with the national debt. So in this specific case I would say to democrats: grow up you behaved and continue to call your opposition all kinds of names and to Republicans I say: stop being cowards and get some backbone already. Your effort to look goody goody makes you look foolish and you will get no political dividends anyway. Right now most people want to know what kind of health care bill will be passed and how it will affect them. This other crap is a distraction.
The Decider
Halo wrote
MLK was a card carrying CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN.
JFK HAD NO INTENTION OF GOING TO AL AND GET HIM OUT OF JAIL.
NIXON WAS FRIENDS WITH BOTH BOBBY AND JACK. BOBBY AND NIXON WENT TOGETHER TO GET MLK OUT OF JAIL.
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You can't be this dumb, so I'll assume you're just making stuff up!
TxGold
Yes, Rzmann, you did. Truth hurts, huh? Joe Wilson tells it like it is!
Rzmann
Hey man......I'm with you. Just trying to be factious
USCitizen-Voter
"Unsurprisingly, the phrase "death panel" does not appear in the health care bill that passed House committees last month. And Palin’s post did not make entirely clear what she might interpret as a "death panel." Nonetheless, the phrase stuck."
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/palin-vs-obama-death-panels/
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"Obama was correct when he said his plan wouldn’t insure illegal immigrants; the House bill expressly forbids giving subsidies to those who are in the country illegally. Conservative critics complain that the bill lacks an enforcement mechanism, but that hardly makes the president a liar."
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/obamas-health-care-speech/
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Facts don't matter with propaganda.
AlanB
"Everyone" knows that factcheck is a "bias website"? You're kidding, right? You apparently haven't actually read its coverage of Obama's speech. Or the pages with titles like "Obama's Social Security Whopper" and "Obama's False Medicare Claim". I guess you think it's "bias" because they failed to say that the speech was 100% lies while noting that he's the Antichrist.
Rzmann
You are kidding right?? OMG...everyone know that factcheck.org is a bias website. Get real....
USCitizen-Voter
Rzmann
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The please show with facts how he's doing this now.
Rzmann
And if the President told you the sky was falling........you would believe that too..right
Fact: This president has contradicted himself numerious times.
Fact: This President has, for better words, SWITCHED views and statements numerious times.
Fact: This President talks with forked tongue
The Decider
Yogi is definitely not smarter than the average bear
Hey Trolls
Are You Trolls also on Acorn's payroll?
AlanB
Who's paying you--FOX, Scaife, or the Republican Party? See how easy that is? And how ignorant?
USCitizen-Voter
Are you on the RNC payroll? Or just fully indoctrinated?
YogiBear
DPP is mentally challenged, it's a California (little mexico) thing. When the next big quake destroys SF, we should declare a national holiday and wonder why those idiots keep rebuilding it