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Obama insisted on a hood to be thrown over the name of Jesus in a Georgetown Catholic church while he was standing at the podium, so I believe shutting your mouth Mr. Knox would be the best policy here. The president does not even attend church, so why is this guy making comments about religion?
Excalibur
J-Mo...........first of all, the Catholic Church is NOT "too embarrassed" to express its views on human sexuality............Pope John Paul II wrote an extensive and beautiful explanation in his "Theology of the Body"..........anyone is free to intelligently discuss an opposing view..............however, to refer to an unknown person with a bag over his head as an "embarrassed Catholic" is bigoted and childish..............!
RealAmerican
AHAHAHA!!! What a joke!!! Look at the guy wearing a bag on his head in the video!!! AHAHAHAHA!!! These progressives are so embarrassed they are hiding now!!! LMAO!!!! TOO FUNNY!!!
joeyblueyes
NEED ANY MORE PROOF OF A FASCIST N GODLESS REGIME AMERICA???
J-Mo
Actually, if your looking at the political extremes, Socialists and communists, are the ones that are typically "Godless". Fascists are right wing and tend to be the religious ones ...
Jim in CA
Okay, first of all, how can this possibly be a serious forum with The Unknown Comic sitting on the panel?
J-Mo
That was the Catholic representative, too embarrassed by his church's dogma ....
J-Mo
Excaliber - and further to your last comment. Are you saying that someone cannot legitimately criticize Catholic dogma without being a bigot?
J-Mo
Excaliber - read my post immediately below yours and tell me what is wrong with my view of the Catholic position on condom use ...
Excalibur
.........now you show your true colors..........a Catholic bashing bigot..........!
J-Mo
US Male - What an absolute nut job. His ignorance is absolutely appalling!
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Not really, its a valid criticism. Its fine that the Catholic church says that to be a good Christian you should abstain from sex until you get married, and once married, only have sex with your spouse. But after saying that, the next line should be, if in a moment of weakness your going to sin and have sex, please use a condom to avoid spreading AIDS and creating unwanted pregnancies (that might lead to abortion). That last sentence is what is needed, and is common sense, but it directly conflicts with Catholic dogma. You may quibble, but we are talking people's lives here.
US Male
What an absolute nut job. His ignorance is absolutely appalling!
islandgranny
j-mo...having many friends and family that are of other religions..I have no disrespect for their beliefs. It is what it is..guess we will all find out! Enjoy the Superbowl. :)
geedub
Just another NUTJOB working in our Whitehouse.
fed up with them all
I see a lot of comments about the seperation of church and state. Do some reading folks. The framers wanted to keep government, "state", out of the church. That is one of the main reasons they, the founders came here. The founders and framers were very religious folks. They prayed about everything they did for guidance. This thing about the seperation of church and state has been twisted over the years to meet the needs of who ever was speaking at the time. It has became worse over the years. Don't take my word for it folks. It's all in black and white, all you have to do is read.
J-Mo
So how much seperation between state and Church do you think there should there be? If the framers had wanted to create a "Christian" nation with their constitution - they failed spectacularily. God isn't even mentioned (except for specifying the date the constitution was signed).
Tio
Did you read that comment before responding to it? If you want to bust on someone at least do it in the context of what they said.
Tio
Frankin Graham could probably speak for Jesus. Knox, Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson might want to rethink their claim as the true all-faith prophets enlightened enough to apply Jesus to the issues of the day.
J-Mo
I think only Jesus can speak for Jesus.
Jim in CA
Where I live, Jesus can't even speak English.
Tio
Nice liberal speak. But that is not what Jesus said repeatedly in all 4 Gospels.
Lee in Pa
Whatever happened to seperation of church and state? Why does Obama's advisor's opinion of what the Pope 'does' have to matter? If harry Knox doesn't like Catholics and the Pope in general, he should keep his opinion to himself when speaking in his official capacity. While in his official capacity he needs to keep all religious opinions out of the discussion.
Lee in Pa
Whatever happened to seperation of church and state? Why does Obama's advisor's opinion of what the Pope 'does' have to matter? If harry Knox doesn't like Catholics and the Pope in general, he should keep his opinion to himself when speaking in his official capacity. While in his official capacity he needs to keep all religious opinions out of the discussion.
US Male
There is no separation of Church and State in the US Constitution. Read it!!! That was something made up by the courts.
US Male
"Because of the diverse conditions of humans, it happens that some acts are virtuous to some people, as appropriate and suitable to them, while the same acts are immoral for others, as inappropriate for them."
Thomas Aquinas
islandgranny
Athiest...why do you think your views of the universe are better than a Christians view of the universe? I believe in God..you believe in whatever you believe in. I am no better than you..you are no better than me. You can't have it all! All I can say is..if there is no God...you better be right!!
J-Mo
Why would a Christian think their views of the Universe are better then that of an Atheists? The answer to the question center on what one believes. And the good/convinient news for you, is if I am right, you will never know and I will never get the opportunity to say "I told you so" ... ;-)
islandgranny
Did you even read my comment. I don't think my views are better than yours. I just said I believe in God..you don't. Guess we will find out...who will say "I told you so"...:-)
pepperoni
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lfg06Xb3bc
Darwin Song Project
J-Mo
pinkschmink - Do you also spend much time attempting to discredit, say, Islam and the Koran, because there are Islamofascist who harm people, as you do Christianity? Or is Christianity your only *nemesis*
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Although I have friends and colleagues who are Muslim, I have no greater or less respect for it than I would Christianity. To me, they both worship the same non-existent God. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs/delusion, especially if it makes them get more out of life. My only concern really is when someone's beliefs start impacting others around them in a negative fashion - liking flying an airplane into a building, withholding information that might save lives, etc.
pepperoni
::crickets::
:-) Might be a no :-)
Excalibur
.....it is the impact and exchange of worldviews that make life a rich experience........many ideas both political and social impact others in a positive and negative way.........
pepperoni
I understand. And I hate the Muslim bashing on this site. They do not work with or go to school with Muslims, obviously who do this. But you have a main concern with Christians, yes?
pepperoni
Thank u for candid answers! I feared almost a faux pas in asking, but I was curious. Enjoy the Darwin song....almost Feb. 12th....studytimefor pink :-)
pepperoni
An atheist is not necessarily pro-life. What do you think of state executions, or most atheists?
pepperoni
Two places the historian mentions Christ...And the scripts ...over 24, 000 copies/fragments of the time period....were competed by 325 AD. That is remarkabe by any standard.
J-Mo
@chaindawg - (on the topic of religion) NO, but apparently it must make you insecure that others have beliefs that make them feel secure in their life's and having standards to live up to.
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Site broken again, answer hopefully below ...
J-Mo
No, just when people's personal belief starts impacting others, who don't share that belief, in a negative fashion.
pepperoni
Oh, duh. I was taking it to mean whole religion. I forgot topic at hand :-) I googled...no...Islam has no prohibition on the condoms, and interesting scripture on abortion.
J-Mo
Pink, the case in point was the Catholic church was not promoting the use of condoms to help prevent the spread of aids. I don't think Jesus said "Don't use condoms" but the church certainly does. Near as I can tell, based on my readings, Islam in general does not have an issue with condom use.
pepperoni
Teachings of Christ...impacting in negative fashion. (?) Possibly that "Turn the other cheek thing" is nasty, or "Love thy neighbor." Of course, we know it's not only teachings, b/c Christ claims to be Divine, and this is not tolerated, correct? Do you also spend much time attempting to discredit, say, Islam and the Koran, because there are Islamofascist who harm people, as you do Christianity? Or is Christianity your only *nemesis* :-)
J-Mo
Test - loosing posts again?
J-Mo
Maybe it was a catholic bishop to embarressed by his own church's policies?
annieoakley
The man should be fired immediately. I resent him being on the government tit. And Wills, yes, there was someone at the table with a bag over his head. What was that all about??? A KKK person who forgot his hood - or Van Jones who didn't want to be seen on the panel??? Very odd !
J-Mo
Maybe the guy with the bag on his head was a Catholic bishop to embaressed by his own Church's policies?
Ron in Cal
Once more we are reminded that President Obama is surrounded by commies, freaks, and geeks with world views far different than main stream Americans.
J-Mo
pinkschmink - Jesus existed...the historicity is plain. Thor was a story, that is plain. You may not believe Jesus Divine, but that He existed is indisputable (the historical texts are extant). What people dispute is...Is He God, or not.
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Well, about Jesus being "historic" is not quite true. There is no independent corroboration outside of the NT for his existence and there are many contradictions with history in the Gospels and between the Gospels. There have been some scholars who have questioned if Jesus was a real person or just an amalgamation of several figures from that time period. There are even more scholars who might concede there was a Jesus, but doubt parts of the NT narrative on his life. As an example, the story of his birth (star, 3 kings, virgin birth, manger, etc) is viewed by many scholars as a period-fashionable myth designed to shore up divine credentials and show the fulfilling of OT prophecies. Having done enough historical research in my time, I know full well the limits of written records. I have no reason to doubt there may have been a man Jesus of Nazareth, but like the the majority of the people on this planet, do highly doubt his divinity.
pepperoni
http://tinyurl.com/yexs9sp
Lee Stroebel on *Inconsistencies*....need audio...
pepperoni
You have left out Josephus (an historian) who wrote of Jesus....and none of the Gospels denies Christ at all. The sources were written closely to his lifetime, some within 50 years by estimates...very close. Even liberal theologians (I know several) do not doubt His historicity. They believe the Gospels written by a common "Q" source and that words of Christ were passed down and codified/written down/preserved .....but that the Son of Man did exist.
pepperoni
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08522a.htm
Here is a good introduction to Josephus. His works were 27 books of Jewish history and not of little historical imporiance.