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Controversy at Notre Dame
For decades, Notre Dame has stood out as the cultural jewel of American Catholicism-public evidence the great American experiment is compatible with, and indeed enriched by, distinctly Catholic values.
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Frank Galmish
This President of ND who says he is a Catholic proves Crodicle Dundee right when he said "Sh-t for brains mate." He is all too ready to give to Caesar but not to God, what is God's (Respect for life).
irishiyf
As a parent of a recent Notre Dame graduate -- I was extremely disappointed in the university's decision to honor Obama. It's obvious that Jenkins was either "not thinking clearly" or, he feels Our Lady's University is bigger than the Catholic Church. Disgusting.
Anonymous
In an economic turndown this is a great excuse for every alumnus to skip a donation.
cnsrvtv
I attended Catholic grade school in the Fifties and Catholic high school in the early Sixties. One thing made abundantly clear to us, at that time, was that it is a mortal sin to attend a service of any Faith other than Catholic. This, I assume, was to insulate us from any non-Catholic doctrine. How times have changed ! Now the Catholic Church is inviting the most influencial proponent of non-Catholic policy to speak to graduates at our own hallowed university. I find this highly hypocritical. Obama supports abortion, including the hideous late term abortion. He has approved funding for abortions overseas and will sign legislation to force doctors to perform abortions, even if it is against their principles, or loose funding. This could ultimately force Catholic hospitals to close. Couple this with his funding of embryonic stem cell research and I can't imagine why he would be invited to address a Notre Dame commencement. I would encourage John Jenkins to cancel his speaking invitation to Obama because so many Catholics find it offensive. If however he does speak, I would encourage the graduates and alumni to turn their backs on this anti-Catholic values president.
Middlin
I see that the moderator here did not post my comments (I was supposed to be comment 169) . Sad. I would have thought the 'fair and balanced' website would invite all views.
Middlin
Perhaps misspelled your name, Middlin, on my second post objecting to my first post being deleted -- it actually appeared briefly and then disappeared. The site does say they hold the privilege of doing that, but without any indication as to their guidelines. I intend to follow up on this and find out if reading/writing here is just a waste of my time. I don't email one of Fox's big draws anymore because my stuff is never "pithy" enough -- and I take "pithy" to be not only fairly brief, but also "controversial" and either attacking or supporting of the star of the show. After posting several thoughtful, different and short comments to that program and never seeing them or even getting replies (which would have satisfied me), I gave up. That was several years ago. I may do that with this site, as well. Our family is involved in one of the big tea party coalition groups, and we like to put our effort where it's appreciated. A family member is the one who tipped me off that my posting disappeared, which I have now confirmed. He's underwhelmed, as well. I will be following up.
Punned_It
One must earn respect. I cannot respect a man who has no respect for life. I don't care if his title is General, Senator, Judge, or President. You should not allow this supporter of baby killings to speak at Notre Dame unless you believe in abortion.
Jane
I'd love to know what other Catholic universities invited the president to speak at their graduation. Surely ND was not the only one. I also wonder how many of the people protesting the invitation are aware of the new fund ND set up (more than a month ago)- The Fund To Protect Human Life. So much for not caring about Catholic principles.
Jim Whelan
It is one thing to set up a fund and quite another thing to take a stand for one's principles.
Anonymous
VILLANOVA is another HYPOCRITICAL CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY. A few years ago they dedicated an area in a library to a woman who murdered her baby!
Parents send their children to these catholic universities assuming they are being taught their catholic values. The good news is these hypocritical universities are being exposed.
Anonymous
Notre Dame has to decide what they stand for and then keep the President or disinvite him. It is up to them.
Vince
Im not a fan of Obama.But then we need to ask the faculty,students,and atheletes to be brainwashed by catholism.Turn off the hippocrate switch.Stop worshiping the most liberal man ther ever was and stop throwing all that welfare into the collection plate.
Vince
Hey moderator.Post my message.Last time I checked we live in a democracy.Let my voice be heard.
john,ohio
I got the same problem vince.BO supporter must be
checking these out.....er sensoring.Maybee it's BLEEPING!
Middlin
Hey Vince. same thing happened to me ! I wrote a comment on the Bishops, but "Herr Moderator" decided not to post. Sad. This is something I'd expect from Kos, not Fox.
john,ohio
Hi Middlin,
Yeah but fox is the the best,compared to garbage like
NBC,NSNBC,CBS,ABC,CNN in that order.
Looks like O'Reilley and Beck are wimping out..........they respect the presidents office..........er.....dont know.
Elizabeth
Not only is BO a pro-abortion activist, he is ALSO working to gut charitable giving so that HE controls which charities get money... he is doing this with his idea of limiting charitable giving by the "rich" who GIVE 44% of all money donated. If BO has the opportunity, he would love to shut down the pro-life non-profits (and the churches supporting them) and prop up the pro-abortion organizations in this country. No way that Catholics, NDU Alums, or parents paying for their kids education should put up with this... and they should withhold monetary donations to the university.
Sorry TOTUS, don't you have some other adoring crowds to tease?
Anonymous
WE SHOULD ALSO REMEMBER THAT CATHOLIC CHURCHES AROUND THE NATION HELP SUPPORT THIS
COLLEGE..WHY WOULD I GIVE TO A CAUSE THAT HONORS A MAN WHO ADVOCATES KILLING THE UNBORN
Trish
I think Obama should say "thanks but no thanks. I don't want to make waves."
john,ohio
He's not presidential enough.
Don't forget his beginnings,chicago neighborHOOD organizer.
Barbara
I don't think that would be Obama's style. He is more "in-your-face." Look up "fascism" in the dictionary and you will see that that, not socialism, is the danger we face.
Anonymous
They asked him let him speak but do not award him with a degree. He believes in killing babies and stem cell so he doesn't deserve the degree but he is our preisdent and he was asked so let him. Or call George Bush to fill in
Anonymous
I think the president of Notra Dame should resign. He is not a practicing Catholic if he can invite a pro-abortionist, president or not, to speak at the commencement. The best solution would be for all the students (especially the graduating class) to boycott the graduation. We need to stand up for our beliefs.
Tony
The graduating class deserves their day weather he speaks or not. However, there is an opportunity to make a statement without ruining there well deserved day. Simply turn their backs, take out their rosary and pray. Then fire the
man who extended the invitation.
Corey williams
This is another example of the church deciding to fit in with the world instead of standing on principles
Kevin
If the church fits in, then, there will be NO separation of church and State. Christians should be in the world, not of the world. If we keep compromising our virtues, then we will be like every other non-Christian!!
Anonymous
NOTRE DAME INVITED HIM! HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, SHOW SOME RESPECT. I THE STUDENTS WANT TO GO AHEAD A PROTEST , THATS FINE, DO IT OUTSIDE, DONT BE LIKE CODE PINK AT BURST IN THE AREANA, AND RUDELY INTERUPT. HAVE RESPECT FOR THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT.
john,ohio
Respect for the office?It"s just four walls and furniture.
Show respect for BO at a so called catholic university,when he is directly OPPOSED and in no way show respect for the most innocent of life.
And now YOU have to pay for abortions overseas,
Come on give me a break.
He is the nations #1 abortion dr.
If the mothers life is trully in danger,then I can see it.
That would be a very SMALL percentage.
But never abortion on damand for no reason,
Especially where the baby is brought to full term
legs,body,arms come out,but the head is left inside the mother,scissors are inserted at the back of the skull and opened ,then a tube is inserted into the head to suck the brain out till the skull collapses.
You going to invite BO to a catholic u.?????
Kay
I respect the Office of the Presidency but I do not respect Obama! Obama himself has disrespected the office of the Presidency.He should be disinvited for his unchristian views on life. He wants America to fail so he can make-over our beloved country to suit his warped Socialist/Marxist ideology!!!!
He is not presidential!!!
Tom S
100% agreement.
Christine G
Sorry,But you are misinformed.As of 2004 it is a violation of the US bishops'mandate to "honor those who act in defiance of our fundamental moral principles.They should not be given awards,honors or platforms..." Obama must be un-invited!
Anonymous
As if it isn't enough that Obama is causing an uproar at Notre Dame & the Catholic's issues, my son is graduating from ASU in May and Obama is speaking at that graduation too and WE DON"T WANT HIM THERE TO SPOIL THE WHOLE THING!
calclad
I am not a Catholic, but I do believe that life begins at conception. If this invitation cannot be rescinded (for whatever reason), and if I were being graduated with Obama as the speaker at ND, I would turn my back during his speech as a protest against his policies for abortion and stem-cell research using human fetuses.
linda
why shouldn't they have him come to speak at the graduation - they voted for him - in my state which is very
high Catholic/Hispanic population - they all voted for him -
they said it was better to kill those babies than to think if they were born they might be abused.............
Anonymous
I agree!! I agree!! The very idea of Obama giving the commencement speech is outragious. I was so shocked when I heard about the invitation. I would hope that if this invitation is NOT rescinded--all graduates should indeed turn their backs to Obama.
Patti
Vickey
Notre Dame should be excommunicated as a catholic based university. If they do not wish to follow the teachings of the church and would rather follow the teachings of Obama and Pelosi well.... this is America so Notre Dame from one catholic to ........... we WON'T miss you!!!
Roger
The bishop over that diocese is doing the right thing by boycotting the speech. Obama was elected, not by true Catholics but by cafeteria Catholics. True Catholics vote as their conscience dictates, and the conscience of a true Catholic opposes infaticide and abortion, both of which Obama has voted FOR while in the Illinois State Senate.
Regina
This is exactly what I expect from President Obama, and sadly, what I expect from the administration of Notre Dame University, which has been kissing up to the secularsfor years. Bishop D'Arcy of South Bend needs to cut ND loose from ecclesial designation. He has the power, and he needs to use it.
All you NDU alumni, stop supporting the University monetarily. Parents, do not send your children to NDU. I don't know how you can value the eternal souls of your children and pay your good money for your children to be miseducated. If you do not, you are part of the problem.
Face it, $ is the language of all college administrators. It is the only voice they listen to.
Nuray Gercek
Hi all,
Please visit www.rushforpresident.com, and sign the petition. Thank you.
Nuray
MChristman
It is just so incredibly disappointing. Why can't Catholics be united on something so critical... because there are too many "blue dog Catholic democrates" that vote for the President - and they should be ashamed of themselves. Democrates will do everything to pay for your housing, your food, your education and your healthcare - but only if you are lucky enough not to be killed before you are born!
johnmi
I graduated from a catholic university and it bothers me that a religious school that stands for life at conception would allow anyone who actively seeks the destruction of the unborn,no matter who it is,to speak is ridiculous.
MARNIE
( hypocrisy ) what were they thinging ? STAND-UP, for what you BELIVE IN !
One day we'll all answer to GOD ! GOD knows YOUR HEART , CAN'NT
HIDE IT !! B.O. & ALL will answer for (GOV. ABORTION ) the UNBORN will
have there JUDGMENT-DAY !!!!!!!!!
Dan
I say, let him speak as it is to honor graduating students with the prestige of the office of President of the United States. However, do not honor the man with an honorary degree. That is, honor the office, not the man.
Pat Kennedy
Father Jenkins should simply rescind the invitation- change it to a debate or a symposium sometime later or during graduation week-end- he should not give Obama a catholic dais and an honarary degree. Obama does not defend life and that is anti-christ--anti-catholic--anti-human. why allow much less invite that onto your campus? Would Howard Univ. invite David Duke to honor? Would Yeshiva invite Arafat? answer to both NO. would ND invite Obama-- answer to that YES! How to sad and bad is that?
Anonymous
Shame on Notre Dame for asking an admitted lover of Muslims to their commencement exercise !.
klas
If this is the direction in which ND wants move the church should cut loose and let them become a true indepenent..
huffpoop
I like Obozo's stance on embryonic stem cell research, but he needs to allow more research. He should allow cloning of embryos so they will become like an endless supply of replacement parts that wear out over time. This way people can achieve immortality. Who are catholics to stand in the way of progress. I think ND is right to support Obozo.
Jenna
President Obama's appearance at Notre Dame University will further confuse the life issues Americans have grappled with for years, which is exactly what abortion advocates hope for. Americans once understood and valued all human life. We knew when life began and believed it was wrong to willfully terminate a life, especially for the sake of convenience. Over the years, abortion advocates took what we always knew to be true and turned it on its head, transforming abortion from a life issue into a legal rights issue. As a result of their efforts, the unalienable right to life granted to us by our creator has been set aside in favor of a constitutional right created by lawyers and judges that allows a woman to determine whether her unborn child lives or dies.
Once abortion advocates succeeded in the courts, they went to work on the minds and hearts of the American people. Those who oppose their views on abortion are accused of violating a woman's constitutional right to choose and nothing is more un-American than violating our sacred Constitution. By encouraging us to ignore the biological truth of when life begins, abortion advocates avoid answering the question they don't want us to ask: When does a human life become valuable and worthy of protection? When a woman decides it does.
BP
I am appalled at ND for inviting BO to speak; what is happening that ND would ask anyone to speak that is pro-abortion! Shame on them!
rosebud
Is ND Teleprompter-ready? He will probably try and do bad things to ND now -- how dare they not bow down and worship him like his other sheeples. There is one way to make sure he'll not speak at the graduation. Tell him that in exchange for his honorary degree, he must provide a copy of his real birth certificate (the long form) and not the fake one he's had posted on the internet. Tell him to bring along his college records as well that everyone wants to see!