Senator James Inhofe will call for an investigation into the Climate Research Unit (CRU) emails that showed that global warming scientists were deliberately mainpulating and hiding information from the public to further their cause. Read more ...
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RushedLimbo
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RushedLimbo
"The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.
Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific technological elite."
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RushedLimbo
This video explains a lot. It points out the problems in the IPCC's reports quite well.http://www.climate-skeptic.com/climate-videos.html
Cisco
@gl269mm
There are many variables that can explain your question, and a 10 year drop or rise in temperature is a fluctuation that is normal. It is the overall trend of many decades & centuries that is "climate".
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The point of this discussion is the 'falsification' of research data in order to achieve a political agenda.
That is just wrong on both parts. You do not falsify research data and you do not falsify research data to swing public opinion toward a false conclusion.
Billbigdaddy
gt - I'm an engineer and scientist. You're right about the many influencing factors. The issue is that there are some who are "believers" in climate change who latch onto only thse factors that support their belief and ignore all others. THAT'S NOT SCIENCE...THAT'S CORRUPTION OF THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD. Many want climate change to be a fact because is a lever to transfer wealth and increase government control. I'll bet there's not one CC advocate in Congress who has sought tol investigate the facts and come to an informed position. And listening to Al Gore isn't serious investigation!
gl269mm
Hey! You're someone that I can agree with here!
There very certainly are "believers", and just as surely there are "deniers". I don't listen to Al Gore and think he is overrated (especially as "the villain").
I also think this cap-and-trade thing (a policy) is not a very good idea. This is the kind of thing that Wall street insiders are going to manipulate to make a lot of money while not doing anything.
I don't like corrupted science, or attacking the credibility of science for political purposes. That is what the far right has been doing, and is what the issue is.
Winston Cupp
If there was one area that was free of politics, it was science. That is no longer true and I don't think there is anything this side of God, that is precious and true.
gl269mm
Just (finally) finished reading some of the "information" that was pointed to much earlier on this forum. As well, you have to read the opposing side.
This "Senate Minority Report" is very aptly named, and Inhofe can equally be accused of perpetrating a big hoax.
I would assign more credibility to the right-wing view if they did not so obviously take quotes out of context or conveniently leave out crucial information in order to make their point.
DallasOrf
It continually baffles me that the temperatures have declined over the last 10 years while the carbon emissions have increased over the same time period.
How can anyone with half a brain NOT question this theory. And that is all it is, is theory.
More baffling is that our very own House of Representatives and President of the United States are willing to put enormous financial burden on WE THE PEOPLE in the name of a failing theory! The goal is not clean environment, it can't be. The goal, in my opinion is redistribution of global wealth. It's bad enough we have made our own country one that encourages laziness by heavily promoting entitlement programs, now we want to redistribute our wealth globally???? How very sad.
gl269mm
There are many variables that can explain your question, and a 10 year drop or rise in temperature is a fluctuation that is normal. It is the overall trend of many decades & centuries that is "climate".
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I've always known GLOBAL WARMING was a made up CRISIS by LIBERAL GLOBALIST who are wanting one thing, and that's our TAX DOLLARS. Believe me, when the GLOBAL WARMING HOAX is over, these lunatics will create a even bigger CRISIS to scare little children across the world and grown ups too. If you fall for Al Gore and all his GLOBAL CRISIS, that's your problem. I don't believe one word Al Gore, Barbara Boxer, or any LIBERAL says. They want our money and POWER! It's all politics for liberals.
gl269mm
That is a delusional theory you have there, but I know there isn't any way of making you see light.
fat albert
in this case it is a train
Doc H
Jim on The Fox Nation & grandmother Same person? ? ? ? ? MMMMMM
Johannes
I think we need to remind ourselves occasionally that in the last century, more genocide, murder, human degradation, more poverty and human misery were caused by socialism than any other form of government.
When you see the hate mongering posts entered here by the size four hats from SEIU and ACORN (and they're busy posting almost all the time) you need to take a moment and put it all into context. Nothing they're saying is anything new, its all been tried before in the last century, they're not trying to take America in a "new direction" because there is nothing new about socialism. What they are planning is to conquer the American people and break their spirit by turning them into slaves to the state. This is the utipia they long for......a slave state.
Johannes
Now that the cat is out of the bag and everyone knows that global warming is a big fat fraud, I wonder what the next communist manufactured crisis will be..........
New Wine
This, along with all the other evidence uncovered over the last 5 years, will be marginalized and ignored...... and these idiots will press on with this ignorant and dangereous agenda.
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@manup:
He was a hacker. And the emails don't really say anything conclusive about falsifying data, but they're being used like they do. Typical Nazi tactics.
Johannes
Typical false communist response followed by propaganda. When are you people ever going to get some fresh material.......
Larry In Michigan A Proud Union Member and Republican
If you look at the Dem platform and the Nazi party USA, you will find them almost identical. Hitler was a tree hugger you know. and a vegetarian to boot. You seem to like name calling a lot, why? Haven't you got any real ideas? or are you rapt in the lib talking points that you can not think for yourself any longer?
Open your eyes K.MARX neither side has the best interests of the American people in mind, all they seek is money and power........at the expense of people like me and you.
THERE IS NO GLOBAL WARMING, CLIMATE CHANGE HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. COOLING AND HEATING, IT IS CALLED A NATURAL CYCLE, FOR YOU DISNEY FANS THAT THE CIRCLE OF LIFE.
citrus
The fact remains though that there where emails that indicate or at the very least imply falsifying data. It dosn't matter if they really did or didn't if the public beleives they did. Also communists where very much into vilifying. Stalin and the gulogs remember?
dk
Where do the emails indicate or even imply falsification of data?
Excalibur
...........Christmas decorations go up tomorrow.........what do do with the pumpkins......?..........I'll sleep on it.........!
d'Raven
Gotta go, My hubby is pestering me again about my drinking habit, who the heck would get drunk with just 2 bud light? Hmmmm, I guess, he knows me better than I do, tee hee hee, Nyt All, HICK!
grandmother
jimmie....YOU started it!.....but you couldn't finish...typical.
grandmother
pomme....oh, no he's not!.......interfice errorem, diligere errantem....xo
Jim on The Fox Nation
Has anybody checked the long-range forecast for Copenhagen?
Excalibur
............cloudy with lots of fog..............!
Excalibur
.........and intermittent shadiness..........!
grandmother
cupcake......on another thread, you suggested throwing more coals on the fire.......are you using your poker again...
Excalibur
...............St. Ignatius is crying...........!
Jim on The Fox Nation
please go out tomorrow and buy fresh batteries at Radio Shack....you are getting fixated again granny...
grandmother
mon petit pomme.......I knew it! I knew it!.......you're actually auguste rodin.....xo
Jim on The Fox Nation
was the Thinker posing on the can?....always wondered...
grandmother
freeze me?.....that was cold, jimmie.....I never thaw that coming...
Jim on The Fox Nation
prune juice would have helped...
grandmother
cupcake.....you always show so much concern for my health, you're such a good boy jimmie......but you were, once again, a little rascal.....just like little rabbit foo foo.....about you tiger comment.....honestly, jimmie.......you can be such a little devil...........xo
Jim on The Fox Nation
your wealth...I mean health is my only concern...that's why I'm springing for the cryo-freezing...you and Ted Williams...The Splended Splinter and The Splended Spinster on ice for eternity...
Excalibur
grandmere--------should I submit it to Le Salon des Beaux-Arts..............!
manup
K. MARX
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@uscoastguard retired:
How can you take these emails as credible? They were obtained illegally, so how can anyone be sure what chain of custody has done to them. Can you really trust someone who would use illegally obtained evidence?
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So you think it illegal to tell the truth, the person responsible for leaking these E Mails is a hero, and should become an instant millionaire...!!
citrus
These emails may not be usefull in court, but to a populace that often decides what is or is not defendable, this is valuable.
CONSERVATIVES ARE BIRTHER TEABAGGERS
He was a hacker. And the emails don't really say anything conclusive about falsifying data, but they're being used like they do. Typical Nazi tactics.
Jim on The Fox Nation
@Grandma.....you were a vision.....from the World of Suzy Wong....
grandmother
strain...
Jim on The Fox Nation
are you constipated again.......use the prune juice like doc says...
grandmother
I hope that won't put a stain on our relationship, cupcake......