Enfield (WTNH) - The ACLU of Connecticut is warning the Enfield school board to stop holding graduation ceremonies at a Bloomfield megachurch, claiming the graduates and their families are unconstitutionally being subjected to religious messages.
Retailers begin annual cash- in on Christian holiday they refuse to mention by name.
Monday, November 23, 2009 at 07:55 PM
Becky5
To Bell2ring
"My overriding concern is where will you obtain your moral values, do you hope they will print moral values on the back of breakfast food boxes, or do you want to hand our country over to ACORN."
Fascinating comment. Are you saying you would not have moral values without a god? Sorry, but you can be a good person without "god". Don't know what ACORN has to do with this.
Monday, November 23, 2009 at 03:02 PM
Bell2ring
The ACLU wants us to worship as athiests, as Communists, as Witches, as other non-god figures, all of whitch have no moral code as part of their teachings which will enpower ACORN.
Monday, November 23, 2009 at 01:49 PM
Special Forces (Ret)
Becky5
To: sparker
Why do you believe in a punishing god, gates of hell stuff? It is just such a human made-up concept. What kind of god is that? But since that is your belief, He is your god, you burn in hell
=============================================================
Are you so positive of your conviction that you're willing to bet your soul on it ?
Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 06:04 PM
Becky5
Yes, and people who think like this are growing in number.Until you can produce a god that can be seen and proven to be god, I wouldn't bet my soul on it if I were you.
Monday, November 23, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Bell2ring
My overriding concern is where will you obtain your moral values, do you hope they will print moral values on the back of breakfast food boxes, or do you want to hand our country over to ACORN.
Monday, November 23, 2009 at 01:52 PM
Becky5
To: sparker
Why do you believe in a punishing god, gates of hell stuff? It is just such a human made-up concept. What kind of god is that? But since that is your belief, He is your god, you burn in hell
Sunday, November 22, 2009 at 03:57 PM
Becky5
"ive started my own anti-aclu campaign -- every day from now til christmas im sending them a christmas card. a nice RELIGIOUS styled card."
__________________________
Yeah, that'll show them. So original. Geez!
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Saturday, November 21, 2009 at 12:51 AM
sparker
Its a comfort to know such ill-minded individuals will see the gates of Hell. They think they are doing a good thing as they work for the devil, himself.
Friday, November 20, 2009 at 08:43 PM
moesite
ive started my own anti-aclu campaign -- every day from now til christmas im sending them a christmas card. a nice RELIGIOUS styled card.
aclu
125 broad st
18th fl
ny ny 10004
Friday, November 20, 2009 at 07:45 PM
Oh. Patriot
The ACLU in my opinion is #1 on Americas enemies list! They should have been disbanded years ago!Bumch of communists!
Friday, November 20, 2009 at 07:12 PM
Rebel
The ACLU has no legal or Constitutional authority to demand anything. They represent a criminal, politically based syndicate that should be sued under RICO, prosecuted, and dissolved. It's way past time American businesses, institutions, and individuals told the ACLU to go straight to hell.
Friday, November 20, 2009 at 05:00 PM
Joe P
The Constitution does not contain the words "Separation of Church and State". The phrase separation of church and state is generally traced to the letter written by Thomas Jefferson in 1802 to the Danbury Baptists. The phrase was pick up and miss used. Even though it is never in law it has worked its way into main stream thought and legal precedence.
Friday, November 20, 2009 at 02:49 PM
citrus
If it's space the school needs, then let them go where they want. If it's a religious meaning, then they shouldn't be going to a church.
Friday, November 20, 2009 at 01:06 PM
biker
I know when my children graduated the problem was having enough room for all the family members, friends and graduates. If this church is big enough to hold everyone...what is the problem. I don't remember any religious topics being brought up at my childrens graduations. The aclu is grasping at straws to try to create turmoil.
Friday, November 20, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Loyal72
The ACLU needs to find a real job! Wihout religion, they would be out of work altogether! ACORN might be a great bone for them to gnaw on. With its voter fraud putting the BOwipe in office, a whole bunch of my civil liberties are being threatened!
Friday, November 20, 2009 at 09:44 AM
Liberals Are Parasites
"Wihout religion", That's the key words, that's what they want, no religion.
Friday, November 20, 2009 at 01:53 PM
TxGrma
IMAGINE THAT!!! The ACLU...they are such an up-right moral organization.uh huh... Why anybody bows down to anything they propose is beyond me. They're all going to Hell!
Friday, November 20, 2009 at 09:13 AM
Janet in Florida
The ACLU also wants no crosses on FEDERAL property. Think of Arlington cemetarry.We can make a statement to them by ALL sending a CHRISTMAS card to 125 Broad Street, 18th floor, N.Y., N.Y., 10004 They'd have to open a zillion, thinking there might be a donation inside.Let's do it !! Only 44 cents & a card...
Friday, November 20, 2009 at 08:01 AM
BOSMAN
DO IT ANYWAY!
Tell the ACLU your sorry.
DO IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR ALSO.
By the time these REDS know your game, we'll have a new President!
=====================================================
MITT ROMNEY NEWS UPDATE: 11/19/2009
********************************************************
MITT ROMNEY SLAMS OBAMA in article on Politico 11/19/09
'The Cost Of On The Job Training (OBAMA)' http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29685.html
ROMNEY / DeMINT in 2012!
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MITT ROMNEY on Obama our "Dither-In-Chief"
Axelrod Responds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xICmhIFSqbU&feature=player_embedded#
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MITT ROMNEY fund raising for Conservative Candidates is almost DOUBLE Palin's and Huckabee's COMBINED: http://race42008.com/2009/11/18/mitt-romneys-pac-continues-rapid-fundrai...
ROMNEY / DeMINT in 2012!
Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 09:10 PM
FAILURE-IN-CHIEF
They want to remove ''IN GOD WE TRUST'' from our dollar bills next.
Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 06:20 PM
TXTeacher
Just Like Acorn this organization needs to be defunded. If it is worth keeping around it would not need my tax money to keep the doors open.
Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 05:03 PM
jmm49
The ACLU should go back and study history and what our country was founded on before opening there stupid mouths.
Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 04:21 PM
62andAngry
ACLU needs to disappear....
Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 01:44 PM
Youmovetheearth.org
Church buildings are used by the government every year for elections, school boards use them for graduation, FEMA uses them as emergency shelters, etc...etc... The ACLU is the first to scream about long wait lines on election day and the failure of government during Katrina BUT if it was not for people being FORCED into these buildings lives would have not been saved, current administrations would not have won, and so forth.
Next time there is a natural disaster or an election - lets shut down every church building and have the ACLU lawyers put up tents and then see if people are happy with that scenario.
Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 12:54 PM
-WE THE PEOPLE-
Oh whatever!!! That's reaching isn't it ACLU? You people are the biggest dolts this nation has...I'd be embarrassed to even be associated with ACLU. I'd bet these frickin morons get the terrorists off for 9/11. If that should happen, I'm afraid ACLU may have an issue in America. It won't be pretty either.
Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 09:54 AM
BOB from the old school
Whats the issue here? A christian church is defined as being the people not the building . the building is just the building where the church meets. It is not a temple or a mosque which have physical significance. Teh ACLU knows this but will continue it's christa-phobic prejudicial lawsuits.
Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 09:47 AM
saltydizzle
so if a muslim decided to go to a christian church to pray to whatever god they believe in would you allow that? If the "christian church is defined as being the people not the building" then there should be no problem right?
Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 09:53 AM
saltydizzle
considering some of the things i see on this website from christians I think that it would very well be a problem.
Friday, November 20, 2009 at 01:27 PM
Jim in JAX
Probably not since technically all three major religions have the same God. The problem would be that the muslim probably wouldn't make it past the metal detector.
Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 06:02 PM
USANUMBER2
If the state can force children to go to a church than it can force them to go to a mosque as well... are you sure you theocratic christian nutjobs really want the state to have this power? be careful what you wish for.
Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 08:08 AM
dartmann
BS
Friday, November 20, 2009 at 12:01 AM
dartmann
BS
Friday, November 20, 2009 at 12:01 AM
USANUMBER2
All the facist christian theocrats in the USA want to forcibly subject True Americans to their their religion against their will. The state has no right forcing young people to go to a church for their school function
Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 08:05 AM
dartmann
More BS
Friday, November 20, 2009 at 12:01 AM
USANUMBER2
What if the graduation was held at a mosque or Jewish temple? that would probably make some of the christians uncomfortable hmmm
Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 08:02 AM
dartmann
Even more BS
Friday, November 20, 2009 at 12:01 AM
Not a Pinko
THE ACLU IS THE RADICAL LEFT'S STRONG ARM. THEY SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN OR REWRITE SOME LAWS TO MAKE IT HARD FOR THEM TO MANEUVER.
Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 12:00 AM
The Lone Conspirator
The people of Enfield don`t have a problem with the practise. Churches have always been used as meeting houses. It`s a tradition in New England. In the day, it was either the Church or the tavern. The ACLU worries too much.
Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 10:05 PM
suehal
Let me get this straight-the ACLU is afraid that people will feel influenced about religion. Does this mean that if one goes to a jail or prison one will be influenced by the inmates? Does this mean that if one goes into a liquor store one will be guided to become an alcholoic?? Give people credit for having intelligence-what the ACLU is saying is that they think people are stupid and weak. The ACLU says they are helping people, instead they re treating people as if they were idiots and so weak and malliable. How insulting!!!
Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 09:55 PM
moesite
I HEARD A GREAT IDEA FROM ANOTHER POSTER.
LETS ALL SEND THE ACLU CHRISTMAS CARDS.
SEND AT LEAST ONE A WEEK -- LETS BOMBARD THE STINKIN TURDS!
ACLU
125 BROAD ST; 18TH FLOOR
NY, NY 10004
Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 09:55 PM
C J
THE DEVIL, AND BALDWIN, ARE SHAKING HANDS, AND GIGGLING!!!
Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 09:44 PM
Humanism
The ACLU's actions are perfectly reasonable. A publicly funded school board should not be graduating its students at a church. It is directly in conflict with the 1st amendment which prohibits the state government from forcing a person to go to (or keep away from) a church. If parents want their children to be graduated at a church they should put them in a private school, but children shouldn't be subjugated to any particular religion on the taxpayer's dollar.
Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 09:13 PM
Jim in JAX
Haven't read the Constitution have you? Try reading the First Amendment before making yourself look silly by saying that it prohibits a state government from forcing a person to go to a church. It doesn't say anything like that.
Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 09:34 PM
Humanism
While the first amendment does indeed not directly state that, it was interpreted as such in the case of Everson v. Board of Education, Page 330 U. S. 15. http://supreme.justia.com/us/330/1/case.html
Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 09:47 PM
Pugmaster
The American Civil Liberties Union was founded in 1920 by a radical Communist by the name of James Baldwin. Since its founding, it has used the judiciary to get their leftist agenda through the courts. This group has a great distain for religion and the free excercise of it. They particularly hate the Christian religion. They want Americans to believe in the power of the state, instead of a higher power. If they had their way, all churches in the U.S. would be banned and destroyed. The ACLU is nothing more than a fascist organization and it will do anything to destroy the traditions and the constitution of this country. They are a disgrace to all.
Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 08:30 PM
Excalibur
............Save America............END the ACLU.......................!
Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 08:23 PM
NotsoSilent
I want the ALCU ended, they are bothering me, who do I get to sue them?
FAILURE-IN-CHIEF
Retailers begin annual cash- in on Christian holiday they refuse to mention by name.
Becky5
To Bell2ring
"My overriding concern is where will you obtain your moral values, do you hope they will print moral values on the back of breakfast food boxes, or do you want to hand our country over to ACORN."
Fascinating comment. Are you saying you would not have moral values without a god? Sorry, but you can be a good person without "god". Don't know what ACORN has to do with this.
Bell2ring
The ACLU wants us to worship as athiests, as Communists, as Witches, as other non-god figures, all of whitch have no moral code as part of their teachings which will enpower ACORN.
Special Forces (Ret)
Becky5
To: sparker
Why do you believe in a punishing god, gates of hell stuff? It is just such a human made-up concept. What kind of god is that? But since that is your belief, He is your god, you burn in hell
=============================================================
Are you so positive of your conviction that you're willing to bet your soul on it ?
Becky5
Yes, and people who think like this are growing in number.Until you can produce a god that can be seen and proven to be god, I wouldn't bet my soul on it if I were you.
Bell2ring
My overriding concern is where will you obtain your moral values, do you hope they will print moral values on the back of breakfast food boxes, or do you want to hand our country over to ACORN.
Becky5
To: sparker
Why do you believe in a punishing god, gates of hell stuff? It is just such a human made-up concept. What kind of god is that? But since that is your belief, He is your god, you burn in hell
Becky5
"ive started my own anti-aclu campaign -- every day from now til christmas im sending them a christmas card. a nice RELIGIOUS styled card."
__________________________
Yeah, that'll show them. So original. Geez!
spagetti jimmy
http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/marx-gramsci.htm
This is a safe link , scanned by AVAST .
Recon
Diversity Fatigue Alert: Your RACE CARD HAS BEEN DECLINED [http://bit.ly/61l5Va]
sparker
Its a comfort to know such ill-minded individuals will see the gates of Hell. They think they are doing a good thing as they work for the devil, himself.
moesite
ive started my own anti-aclu campaign -- every day from now til christmas im sending them a christmas card. a nice RELIGIOUS styled card.
aclu
125 broad st
18th fl
ny ny 10004
Oh. Patriot
The ACLU in my opinion is #1 on Americas enemies list! They should have been disbanded years ago!Bumch of communists!
Rebel
The ACLU has no legal or Constitutional authority to demand anything. They represent a criminal, politically based syndicate that should be sued under RICO, prosecuted, and dissolved. It's way past time American businesses, institutions, and individuals told the ACLU to go straight to hell.
Joe P
The Constitution does not contain the words "Separation of Church and State". The phrase separation of church and state is generally traced to the letter written by Thomas Jefferson in 1802 to the Danbury Baptists. The phrase was pick up and miss used. Even though it is never in law it has worked its way into main stream thought and legal precedence.
citrus
If it's space the school needs, then let them go where they want. If it's a religious meaning, then they shouldn't be going to a church.
biker
I know when my children graduated the problem was having enough room for all the family members, friends and graduates. If this church is big enough to hold everyone...what is the problem. I don't remember any religious topics being brought up at my childrens graduations. The aclu is grasping at straws to try to create turmoil.
Loyal72
The ACLU needs to find a real job! Wihout religion, they would be out of work altogether! ACORN might be a great bone for them to gnaw on. With its voter fraud putting the BOwipe in office, a whole bunch of my civil liberties are being threatened!
Liberals Are Parasites
"Wihout religion", That's the key words, that's what they want, no religion.
TxGrma
IMAGINE THAT!!! The ACLU...they are such an up-right moral organization.uh huh... Why anybody bows down to anything they propose is beyond me. They're all going to Hell!
Janet in Florida
The ACLU also wants no crosses on FEDERAL property. Think of Arlington cemetarry.We can make a statement to them by ALL sending a CHRISTMAS card to 125 Broad Street, 18th floor, N.Y., N.Y., 10004 They'd have to open a zillion, thinking there might be a donation inside.Let's do it !! Only 44 cents & a card...
BOSMAN
DO IT ANYWAY!
Tell the ACLU your sorry.
DO IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR ALSO.
By the time these REDS know your game, we'll have a new President!
=====================================================
MITT ROMNEY NEWS UPDATE: 11/19/2009
********************************************************
MITT ROMNEY SLAMS OBAMA in article on Politico 11/19/09
'The Cost Of On The Job Training (OBAMA)'
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29685.html
ROMNEY / DeMINT in 2012!
********************************************************
MITT ROMNEY on Obama our "Dither-In-Chief"
Axelrod Responds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xICmhIFSqbU&feature=player_embedded#
********************************************************
MITT ROMNEY, Continues to Pound the Foreign Policy Drum:
http://race42008.com/2009/11/19/mitt-romney-continues-to-pound-the-forei...
*******************************************************
MITT ROMNEY fund raising for Conservative Candidates is almost DOUBLE Palin's and Huckabee's COMBINED:
http://race42008.com/2009/11/18/mitt-romneys-pac-continues-rapid-fundrai...
ROMNEY / DeMINT in 2012!
FAILURE-IN-CHIEF
They want to remove ''IN GOD WE TRUST'' from our dollar bills next.
TXTeacher
Just Like Acorn this organization needs to be defunded. If it is worth keeping around it would not need my tax money to keep the doors open.
jmm49
The ACLU should go back and study history and what our country was founded on before opening there stupid mouths.
62andAngry
ACLU needs to disappear....
Youmovetheearth.org
Church buildings are used by the government every year for elections, school boards use them for graduation, FEMA uses them as emergency shelters, etc...etc... The ACLU is the first to scream about long wait lines on election day and the failure of government during Katrina BUT if it was not for people being FORCED into these buildings lives would have not been saved, current administrations would not have won, and so forth.
Next time there is a natural disaster or an election - lets shut down every church building and have the ACLU lawyers put up tents and then see if people are happy with that scenario.
-WE THE PEOPLE-
Oh whatever!!! That's reaching isn't it ACLU? You people are the biggest dolts this nation has...I'd be embarrassed to even be associated with ACLU. I'd bet these frickin morons get the terrorists off for 9/11. If that should happen, I'm afraid ACLU may have an issue in America. It won't be pretty either.
BOB from the old school
Whats the issue here? A christian church is defined as being the people not the building . the building is just the building where the church meets. It is not a temple or a mosque which have physical significance. Teh ACLU knows this but will continue it's christa-phobic prejudicial lawsuits.
saltydizzle
so if a muslim decided to go to a christian church to pray to whatever god they believe in would you allow that? If the "christian church is defined as being the people not the building" then there should be no problem right?
saltydizzle
considering some of the things i see on this website from christians I think that it would very well be a problem.
Jim in JAX
Probably not since technically all three major religions have the same God. The problem would be that the muslim probably wouldn't make it past the metal detector.
USANUMBER2
If the state can force children to go to a church than it can force them to go to a mosque as well... are you sure you theocratic christian nutjobs really want the state to have this power? be careful what you wish for.
dartmann
BS
dartmann
BS
USANUMBER2
All the facist christian theocrats in the USA want to forcibly subject True Americans to their their religion against their will. The state has no right forcing young people to go to a church for their school function
dartmann
More BS
USANUMBER2
What if the graduation was held at a mosque or Jewish temple? that would probably make some of the christians uncomfortable hmmm
dartmann
Even more BS
Not a Pinko
THE ACLU IS THE RADICAL LEFT'S STRONG ARM. THEY SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN OR REWRITE SOME LAWS TO MAKE IT HARD FOR THEM TO MANEUVER.
The Lone Conspirator
The people of Enfield don`t have a problem with the practise. Churches have always been used as meeting houses. It`s a tradition in New England. In the day, it was either the Church or the tavern. The ACLU worries too much.
suehal
Let me get this straight-the ACLU is afraid that people will feel influenced about religion. Does this mean that if one goes to a jail or prison one will be influenced by the inmates? Does this mean that if one goes into a liquor store one will be guided to become an alcholoic?? Give people credit for having intelligence-what the ACLU is saying is that they think people are stupid and weak. The ACLU says they are helping people, instead they re treating people as if they were idiots and so weak and malliable. How insulting!!!
moesite
I HEARD A GREAT IDEA FROM ANOTHER POSTER.
LETS ALL SEND THE ACLU CHRISTMAS CARDS.
SEND AT LEAST ONE A WEEK -- LETS BOMBARD THE STINKIN TURDS!
ACLU
125 BROAD ST; 18TH FLOOR
NY, NY 10004
C J
THE DEVIL, AND BALDWIN, ARE SHAKING HANDS, AND GIGGLING!!!
Humanism
The ACLU's actions are perfectly reasonable. A publicly funded school board should not be graduating its students at a church. It is directly in conflict with the 1st amendment which prohibits the state government from forcing a person to go to (or keep away from) a church. If parents want their children to be graduated at a church they should put them in a private school, but children shouldn't be subjugated to any particular religion on the taxpayer's dollar.
Jim in JAX
Haven't read the Constitution have you? Try reading the First Amendment before making yourself look silly by saying that it prohibits a state government from forcing a person to go to a church. It doesn't say anything like that.
Humanism
While the first amendment does indeed not directly state that, it was interpreted as such in the case of Everson v. Board of Education, Page 330 U. S. 15.
http://supreme.justia.com/us/330/1/case.html
Pugmaster
The American Civil Liberties Union was founded in 1920 by a radical Communist by the name of James Baldwin. Since its founding, it has used the judiciary to get their leftist agenda through the courts. This group has a great distain for religion and the free excercise of it. They particularly hate the Christian religion. They want Americans to believe in the power of the state, instead of a higher power. If they had their way, all churches in the U.S. would be banned and destroyed. The ACLU is nothing more than a fascist organization and it will do anything to destroy the traditions and the constitution of this country. They are a disgrace to all.
Excalibur
............Save America............END the ACLU.......................!
NotsoSilent
I want the ALCU ended, they are bothering me, who do I get to sue them?