Lawyers Say Obama, Holder Gaffes Could Influence 9/11 Trial
Remarks by the US president and Eric Holder, the Attorney General, forecasting a conviction for the Khalid Sheikh Mohammed could create unnecessary delays in the trial, analysts said.
Defence lawyers were sure to apply to have the charges dismissed after Mr Obama made an overarching effort to reassure Americans that the decision to put Mohammed on trial at a federal court in New York was sound.
"I don't think it will be offensive at all when he's convicted and when the death penalty is applied to him," the president said in an NBC interview on his tour of Asia, which ended late on Thursday.
Seeming to realise the potential for trouble in his answer, the president - a lawyer and former law professor - added: "What I said was, people will not be offended if that's the outcome. I'm not pre-judging, I'm not going to be in that courtroom, that's the job of prosecutors, the judge and the jury."
Testifying before Congress, Mr Holder said "failure was not an option" for prosecutors. "These are cases that have to be won," he said. Mohammed will be put on trial with four alleged co-conspirators in the suicide plane hijackings that claimed nearly 3,000 lives.
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Amazingoly
Could be the last nail in Obama's short lived presidency. Possible to salvage something if he listens to the people for once, and changes this stupid idea. My heart goes out to all the families that Obama and Holder have hurt beyond repair. 2010 & 2012.
Delores CH WV
YES, THEY WILL WALK OUT OF NYC ON TO THE STREETS WITH THEIR FRIENDS!!!!!
sce3
!. Everyone said it was stupid to put them on trial in the US...they did it anyway
2. We all said it would turn into a circus.... it is
3. We all think they'll get off on some technicallity..and they probably will
MMMM MMMM MMMM...
Hows that hope and change working out!
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rosepatriot
Is stupidity catchy! This administration is the engineer, author and executioner of this entire circus trial. It may be a page turner but they know exactly how & where the plot thickens and how it will end. Let's go to the tree & not the barrel: Law student throughout the land - help us fight against Obama/Holder bought and paid for lawyers (the new acorn) retained with our tax dollars!
Winston Cupp
The mere pictures of these idiots tells it all....send their ass home... if this is the best America has to offer in terms of legal minds...we are in trouble and we know we are in trouble for the same reason...thanks guys....
TX_Family
3.For a civilian court to function under our systesm of juris prudence, the first presumption is that the defendant is innocent and must be proven as guilty (motive, means, opportunity) by the State. If not, then they must be set free under the law, and are subject to new charges but cannot be tried for the same crime to which they have been acquitted. The presumption of a crime in large part goes to a motive which is recognized as a common reason understandable within a societies mores; i.e. greed, fear, depraved indeference, profit. Terrorists fit into none of these catagories in terms of motive. Likewise there is not a normal means by which evidence can be gathered and presented, particularly when the combatants are found on and taken into custody on foreign soil. Under Holder’s applied logic, the bombing of London neighborhoods was a criminal act (crime against civilians) but the bombing of a miltary base would be a matter for military courts. Holder’s whole premise is completely flawed, and we the Amercian people and the sanctity of our intelligence community and justice system at large are going to pay a heavy price. The whole idea is absurb.
Excalibur
..........sheer INCOMETENCE............!
Speakw/oLies
They're just Stoooooooooopiiid!!! Blinded by Ideology!
Just Remember Everyone... They're Really, Really,
Stoooooooooooooooopiiiiiiiiiddd!
d'Raven
Whether they convict them or they walk on technicality, this show trial will only display how inept this administration had been running this country!
cindylou
they want them to walk.
belisletx
Obama and this Chicago machine is out of control and are simply a band of fools. They are going to do their best to showcase this trial to show America's so called misdeeds during the Bush era.
On a side note:
The picture of our President bowing down to the Japanese empr is mind boggling to me and not to mention only 2 wks before the Pearl Harbor anniversary. What a buffoon.
Woody B
Is this the kind of stuff you learn in law school?
In place of the world-known Barnum & Bailey Circus, we now bring you the brand new, fresh-from-Chicago, Holder & Obama Circus!!!
public optional
COULD influence the 9/11 trial? They've already begun. And they know it.
GIRTHOLICIOUS
It is time to cast aside all remaining doubt. President Obama is not trying to lead America forward to recovery, prosperity and strength. Quite the opposite, in fact.
The methodology is known as the Cloward-Piven Strategy;
The strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. The "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.
Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven were two lifelong members of Democratic Socialists of America who taught sociology at Columbia University (Piven later went on to City University of New York). In a May 1966 Nation magazine article titled "The Weight of the Poor," they outlined their strategy, proposing to use grassroots radical organizations to push ever more strident demands for public services at all levels of government.
The result, they predicted, would be "a profound financial and political crisis" that would unleash "powerful forces ... for major economic reform at the national level."
They implemented the strategy by creating a succession of radical organizations, most notable among them the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), with the help of veteran organizer Wade Rathke. Their crowning achievement was the "Motor Voter" act, signed into law by Bill Clinton in 1993 with Cloward and Piven standing behind him.
As we now know, ACORN was one of the chief drivers of high-risk mortgage lending that eventually led to the financial crisis. But the Motor Voter law was another component of the strategy. It created vast vulnerabilities in our electoral system, which ACORN then exploited.
ACORN's vote registration scandals throughout the U.S. are predictable fallout.
The Motor Voter law has also been used to open another vulnerability in the system: the registration of vast numbers of illegal aliens, who then reliably vote Democrat. Herein lies the real reason Democrats are so anxious for open borders, security be damned.
It should be clear to anyone with a mind and two eyes that this president and this Congress do not have our interests at heart. They are implementing this strategy on an unprecedented scale by flooding America with a tidal wave of poisonous initiatives, orders, regulations, and laws. As Rahm Emmanuel said, "A crisis is a terrible thing to waste."
The real goal of "health care" legislation, the real goal of "cap-and-trade," and the real goal of the "stimulus" is to rip the guts out of our private economy and transfer wide swaths of it over to the government to control. Do not be deluded by the propaganda. These initiatives are vehicles for change. They are not goals in and of themselves except in their ability to deliver power. They and will make matters much worse, for that is their design.
This time, in addition to overwhelming the government with demands for services, Obama and the Democrats are overwhelming political opposition to their plans with a flood of apocalyptic legislation. Their ultimate goal is to leave us so discouraged, demoralized, and exhausted that we throw our hands up in defeat. As Barney Frank said, "the middle class will be too distracted to fight."
These people are our enemies. They don't use guns, yet, but they are just as dangerous, determined, and duplicitous as the communists we faced in the Cold War, Korea, Vietnam, and bush wars across the globe, and the Nazis we faced in World War II.
It is time we fully internalized and digested this fact, with all its ugly ramifications. These people have violated countless laws and could be prosecuted, had we the political power. Not only are their policies unconstitutional, but deliberately so -- the goal being to make the Constitution irrelevant. Their spending is off the charts and will drive us into hyperinflation, but it could be rescinded, had we the political power. These policies are toxic, but they could be stopped and reversed, had we the political power. Their ideologies are poisonous, but they could be exposed for what they are, with long jail sentences as an object lesson, had we the political power.
Every single citizen who cares about this country should be spending every minute of his or her spare time lobbying, organizing, writing, and planning. Fight every initiative they launch. It is all destructive. If we are to root out this evil, it is critical that in 2010 we elect competent, principled leaders willing to defend our Constitution and our country. Otherwise, the malevolent cabal that occupies the government today will become too entrenched.
After that, all bets are off.
Jackson Pearson
This has to be the most stupidest legal decisions ever made by ANY AG, and even more so for a president that's interested more in PC, then punishing our enemies.
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DP
Frick & Frack at the height of their careers! It's all downhill from now on !!!
Republic Storm
That was their objective Holder and Obama want to prolong the trial they get more face time on tv that way. They get to bash Bush alot more with more air time. They could care less about the 9-11 families or their country for that matter.
d'Raven
Is that some kind of a joke? Could? They have already influenced the outcome of the trial, by claiming they can get their convictions and executions, as well.
MawMaw1
Perhaps they are trying to see how they will fare in the future..........
Ken in Atlanta
This is good news.
The trial should end just as Obama's is getting out of office. When they get off on a technicality, we can vote out the last ten democrats in congress.
Imagine, there's no liberals, its easy if you try, no ACLU to judge us, only earth and sky. Imagine all the people, living like we do. Ah ahah
FLAG RET.
PERHAPS MO AND LARRY MADE THESE REMARKS ON PURPOSE, FULL KNOWING IT WILL PLAY INTO THE DEFENSE ATTNY'S HAND..
Recon
Barrack Hussein Obama and his merry band of idiots have been lame ducks since day one.
Obama makes Bush look like a rocket scientist.
When are people going to realize this guy is a fraud, an actor.
When you want to have a refreshing drink and pull up to the old punch bowl, the turds that you see floating in it are Obama and his lapdogs, Irrelevant News.
All I can say is fire them all, Reid….GONE, Pelosi……GONE, send these a-holes a clear message.
Ignore all liberal Hollywood types, don’t waste a dime on their products.
Put them in the poor house just like we are all going to be under BHO.
donwig56
Holder and Obama are making a mockery of our country. Ireally think they dont care about bringing these terriorts to justice, they just want to put President Bush on trial. This will cause our country great damage.
Oh. Patriot
Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dummer!
Recon
Just think -- If Zer0 were a Republican,
the irrelevant media would be all over it.
The end result would make Watergate look like a Sunday-school picnic!
Recon
Is this really about $$, political power or Vandetta?
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haychar
Hey Jack 27! You missed the obvious. Obama said he went to law school but no one knows for sure. His records are sealed. Wonder why????? Maybe he just sat in on the classes (no grading, no pressure, no homework)
Ohio Gal
Anyone here old enough to remember when Nixon declared C. Mason was guilty?
The defense almost won a mistrial with that blunder.
michael
unbelievable !
Jack27
What law schools did Obama and Holder go to, seems like they missed the part about innocent until proven guilty, and due process. Our troops are not allowed to hold for questioning a battle field terrorist more than 48 hrs. then must charge them or release them, We are showing the world we are not to be feared, do what you want to destroy us.
FAILURE-IN-CHIEF
The Obama and Holder Circus presents, The Greatest Show Trial on Earth.Featuring Ringmaster Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. A first ever event, enemy combatants in civilian courts. The outcome is uncertain. Will the Progressives succeed and weaken America’s defenses, damage the CIA, and finally once and for all destroy Bush/Cheney, or will the Obama administration suffer such a blow that a second term is unattainable?Regardless what the AG says, America is the one on trial.
Recon
Anti America, this is just what Jihad Terrorists scribe to 'show trials'.
BHO leading rapid collapse of U.S. global influence: http://tinyurl.com/yes639f
BOSMAN
Holder and Obama DO THEIR BEST to open old wounds for 9/11 families!
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MITT ROMNEY NEWS & VIDEOS: 11/23/09
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Jack27
Eric Holder reminds me of another Attorney General, Ramsey Clark, Both hate our country and will do everything to destroy it, if not stopped.
Winston Cupp
And you two idiots are our legal scholars? With each move either of you make the more trouble the nation discovers we're in.
CONTACT CONGRESS NOW
PEOPLE OF NEW YORK! ITS YOUR CITY! CONTACT OBAMA CONTACT CONGRESS ( TELL THEM THIS IS NOT GOING TO TAKE PLACE NO MATTER WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO STOP IT) OBAMAS DICTATORSSHIP HAS GOT TO END!
JOIN US IN A NEW EFFORT TO STOP THE INSANE ATTACK ON OUR COUNTRY BY OBAMA & THE LIBERAL LEFT!
STOP OBAMA CARE !
STOP THE 9/11 TRIALS!!
CONTACT THE DEMS IN THE SENATE & TELL THEM THAT WE WILL NO LONGER BE IGNORED!
& WE DEMAND A END TO THE ONE PARTY RULE & THE DICTATORSHIP STYLE GOVERMENT THAT IS BEING FORMED BY OBAMA!
A REVOLT IS NEAR! IF OUR GOVERMENT CONTINUES TO IGNORE THE WILL OF THE MAJORITY!
KEEP THE 9/11 trials out of NEW YORK!
FIGHT OBAMA & THE LIBERAL LEFT!
URGENT! Sign The Letter To President Obama
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fed up with them all
Eric Holder, another reason to remember the Senators, who voted this person into office come next years election.
DESTROY THE LEFT
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DS
Like kids playing with power tools.........nothing good will come out of it.
Jenney
http://video.newsmax.com/Manage/Videos/VideoGallery/Hilarious--SNL-Mocks...
The day SNL dared to be fair.
Ralph in Pittsburgh
I'm getting sick and tired of looking at these clowns.
Loyal72
Ralph, I'm a fellow Pennsylvanian, and I am overjoyed to see someone from PGH has some common political sense!!! What can you and I do to put a "crimp" in the BOwad's plans, in PA?
LWOS
stupid is as stupid does. ........... The photos should read:
DUMB AND DUMBER
Recon
Weasel ..... LMAO http://www.southparkstudios... "TALIBAN" THIS IS THE BEST DEAL EVER!
its christine
Anyone else notice how Holder actually looks like a weasel??????
MawMaw1
Always looks like he needs a shower.
ARE THERE ANY AMERICANS IN WASHINGTON?
which one is Mohammed in the picture?
BS Police
Could it be by design?
Bama Girl
Muslims sticking together for the brotherhood!